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Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-28-2018 at 08:21:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • WTB: Early 9N-3702 Ignition On Lamp Assembly
  • I'm in search of all or any parts that make up the original early 9N Ignition 'ON' dash lamp assembly. The p/n is 9N-3702, consists of the red lens, p/n 9N-3701, with a chrome bezel, a mounting socket, and a bulb socket, p/n 9N-13711. The bulb used is a standard B-13466, 6V (#63) but I don't need a bulb. I think the bulb socket has a spring and disc insulator. It is the same bulb as used in the TAURUS and the DUOLAMP taillights. The dash lamp was only used up til s/n 9N-12500 or so. Many early 9Ns have had the lamp disconnected but the red lens a may still be on and the mounting socket and/or bulb socket also may still on, just not wired. Any part listings and/or drawings will help. Price range negotiable.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Keith Riley    Posted 10-07-2018 at 14:09:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Tim,

    It is it possible to obtain a pdf of the Kelly Planter Attachment for the Models 12-9,10,11,12 other that the one on the site. I want to print it out as a true manual and all I get are the pages.

    THANKS for all you do to help the N Tractor Club

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-30-2018 at 08:20:11 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • FOUND -THANKS DEL HUEBNER!!!
  • No text here

    Del answered my quest

    TPD

    Del Huebner    Posted 09-29-2018 at 10:46:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I have the parts from the original that came out of 9N 3662. Tried to post a picture but no luck. The parts are in rough shape but if you want them you can have them. Send me your email and I will send a picture of the parts. My email is del.huebner@yahoo.com.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-30-2018 at 07:49:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Del-Thank you for your kind offer, I believe I can make these work. I'm helping member Chris Eby get his early 9N back to original and this will help.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Steve Dabrowski    Posted 09-28-2018 at 17:41:14 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The bezel is actually stainless, I have two of them. The bulb socket itself is a part of the wiring. Just 8N's has the correct wiring loom for that. The barrel is just that no springs, the bezel screws into it and the bulb holder slides in the back.

    Lyndon Moss had a couple or more in his shop in Texas. Don't have his number handy, but someone here will have it.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-30-2018 at 08:18:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HiYa Steve-
    I don't need one, I have my original for my 9N all wired up on a new repop harness Jim Guarino (www.wiringharnesses.com) made for me a few years ago. I have not installed it yet as my 9N is still a work in progress. I'm helping Chris Eby with his early 9N restoration project and with this dash lamp now only needs a small 'A' generator and the VR. That name vaguely sounds familiar but when I plugged Lyndon Moss into the archive search criteria, it came up with 0 results. I couldn't get my assembly to come apart so I was spraying it with Liquid Wrench all day Friday and then yesterday it all slipped apart. The socket, p/n 9N-13711, is not listed anywhere. I have two of these NOS sockets stashed somewhere. One is still in the original FORD/NEW HOLLAND sealed plastic bag with label on it. The lamp 9N-13711 socket takes the B-13466 6V 3 C.P. bulb -same as the TAURUS and DUOLAMP taillights. It is industry standard p/n #63 today. There is no disc or spring in it. The red bezel is listed as p/n 9N-3701 and the whole ignition ON assembly is p/n 9N-3702.These are the only three parts listed in the MPCs. When Jim at Agri-Services made my harness, I had first looked to see if Carpenter had one but he did not make one for the early 9N with dash lamp. Note that there were two harnesses, the 'A' that was used with the first 4000 tractors using the 20/20 screw terminal ammeter. The "B" harness was identical except it was now for use with the Induction "LOOP" style ammeter. I was trying to determine the cutoff point when they deleted the dash lamp. John Smith says it was at s/n 12500. Don Barkley in his document of the wiring harnesses posted in HOW-TO's/ELECTRICAL says more like at s/n 35000. I'm trying to decipher why MPCs list wiring conduit for dash lamp up thru 1941. Details bug me, but always learning new stuff on these old N's so tossing up this bonus question today for 500 points...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Scott PA    Posted 10-02-2018 at 19:05:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • At serial# 9N12500 the wire harness changed to part# 9N14401C (part# without conduit) for the safety starter, B generator, cut out and dash lamp. Around the time the C generator was installed the wire harness did not include the dash lamp socket, the socket was a separate part with a 2 wire pigtail coming out of it to reach the resistor block. The dash lamp may have been used up to about serial# 9N30000.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-03-2018 at 17:17:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Thanks for the info Scott

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Steve Dabrowski    Posted 10-01-2018 at 15:28:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Well, I just called Lyndon and have the sad news that he passed away on Saturday morning. Unfortunately I let too much time go by since I spoke with him last. I'll surly miss him.

    Steve Dabrowski    Posted 10-01-2018 at 15:19:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I got my harness for my 39 9N from Just 8N's about three years ago and they had the version with the lamp socket attached. The barrel and bezel are the hard parts. Lyndon won't use the internet and has never posted as far as I know. His cell number is 806-622-1941. I haven't talked to him since around February. Also Roger Forst in Wisconsin was making these, but don't know if he still is. If Del has those parts, the Bezel and barrel they can be reasonably restored. I used a lense from a small light I got from Radio Shack and glued it into the bezel with JB weld, looks good and has stayed put now for about 4 years. I think I bought a couple more of those lamps before RS went out of business, so have a spare around somewhere. The one I got from Lyndon had the original sense in good shape.

    Tom    Posted 10-01-2018 at 09:14:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Interesting discussion. I have one in an old dash that I need to remove for another project. Do you unscrew the bezel ring first and then the rest comes out the back... don't want to damage it as these are getting hard to find.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-03-2018 at 17:13:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: WTB: Early 9N-3702 Ignition On Lamp Assembly
  • Yes, the bezel unscrews from the housing but if it has been on for 70 years, spray some Liquid Wrench over it for a few days first. I will be posting some detailed photos in day or so -hang on. The red lens is pressed onto a short tube on one end and the threaded on the other. That end screws into the housing. behind the dash.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tom    Posted 10-05-2018 at 19:44:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Thanks- looks forward to seeing your photos!

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-10-2018 at 17:53:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • posted on the N-BPOARD Tom...

    Tim Daley(MI)

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