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Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-24-2018 at 17:51:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Wanted To Buy: 9N Blueprints
  • I'm looking to buy a complete set of the 9N Ford-Ferguson Tractor blueprints. There were several sets made for the trial and most were auctioned off at The Henry Ford back around 2000.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Farmer Dan    Posted 11-11-2018 at 09:14:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • What a shame.......
  • Makes me sad to think that there are dozens of sets of prints out there not being used and the folks that want to use them can not.

    thanks for letting me vent.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-11-2018 at 11:06:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: What a shame.......
  • Yes, I agree, Dan. It has been reported that 12 sets of blueprints were made for the patent infringement case Ferguson made against Ford. We know that Don Barkley has one set he purchased from John " RustyNuts " Locke. We know too that Dennis Carpenter owns two sets. Also, Robert Sybrandy, the technical adviser for FENA, owns a set as well. The Henry Ford/Benson Ford Research Center has at least one set too. That accounts for five of the twelve. CASE/NEW HOLLAND may own a set or two, but who knows? I suspect some sets were since lost or destroyed and maybe a few fellas that do have a set just don't want to advertise the fact. In 2006 I held and flipped thru Don Barkley's set at the F/FCA show in Penfield, IL. If I had been more into 9Ns then I would have paid more attention to details. I've learned too that patience is a virtue and not to ever give up hope. That is how I ended up locating most all of original parts I needed for the early 9N.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Farmer Dan    Posted 11-11-2018 at 11:27:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: What a shame.......
  • Benson/Ford has a hard copy the court case and microfilm from the plant. I am trying to work with them but keep hitting a wall. New HOlland has the tractor plant drawings but will not discuss them period. I might have to wait for an estate sale but I'll find a set eventually.

    John Locke    Posted 11-07-2018 at 13:47:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Wanted To Buy: 9N Blueprints
  • Tim,
    I had a complete set from the law suit between Ford and Ferguson. I sold them toDon Barkley years ago. At that time he was working with Dennis Carpenter, and used
    the details drawings and measurements to reproduce a number of parts.
    John Locke

    Doug Siperly    Posted 10-24-2018 at 21:56:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Wanted To Buy: 9N Blueprints
  • I had a complete set, but sold them to Dennis Carpenter earlier this year, maybe they would help with what ever you were looking for. Doug

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-25-2018 at 03:40:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Wanted To Buy: 9N Blueprints
  • I recall someone had a set here recently. Don Barkley bought a set too way back when the Henry Ford "downsized" their AG display and inventory with an auction. At least one set is still at the BFRC. One can get photocopies made at $30 per page. I'd like to see the drawings first again. Only saw and held the book once in 2006 with Harold Brock and Don Barkley at a F/FCA show.

    Harold Brock & Don Barkley, circa 2006:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Farmer Dan    Posted 10-24-2018 at 18:28:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Wanted To Buy: 9N Blueprints
  • Court documents are open to the public. Wonder if that would include the drawings from the 1948 court case? It was ultimately settled out of court but the drawings may have made it into evidence if you want to do some digging.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-24-2018 at 19:20:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Wanted To Buy: 9N Blueprints
  • The Ferguson lawsuit was filed in New York in January, 1948. It was finally settled, out of court, in April, 1952. The blueprints used were the original 9N ones. They were needed to show the draft control system, and dates and signatures were vital, along with the Ferguson patents of which the 3Pt was the major one in the suit.


    Tim

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