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Kimberly    Posted 03-14-2021 at 12:42:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • Does anyone have some good rear fender bolts for a '49 8N? The heads on the bolts I have are rather corroded and I want to replace them. I didn't see a listening for them on Just 8Ns. Thanks.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-22-2021 at 14:19:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Kim-
    I didn't look at Just8ns but you are correct that they do have the 5/8-18 HEX HEAD axle bolts. The Dennis Carpenter LINK I posted has the 5/8-18 Carriage Bolts exactly like the originals. You may find casting date code tags on the axle trumpets too. If you had carriage bolts and square holes on your fenders, you may have had the FORD script on the fenders too which would also mean 1950 or later. Here's the thing, the hex bolts will work fine on the late fenders. If you had no problems with the carriage bolts, they will work fine as well and the DC kit is on my other post for those. Since you have a few other major issue, I wouldn't worry about the fenders being 100% correct. By all accounts on what you've said about your 8N, I have no doubt it is a '49. But you aren't doing a complete, total restoration are you? See LINK below for Grade 5 bolts, at $3 apiece. They are partially threaded which will work fine. If you want to pay an extra $10 per bolt, you can get a fully threaded one as well.


    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kimberly    Posted 03-22-2021 at 22:03:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • I think I will just wire brush the bolts and reused them for now and worry about that later. I want to get the tractor running if possible and I am close to setting the lift cover back on.

    Who knows what was done to this tractor over the years. I posted a thread over in the history board if you have time to look; it is about the front bumper.

    The rear fender brackets have the square holes but the fenders DO NOT have the Ford script on them.

    I am not interesting in making the tractor completely original if stuff was changed but if I need to replace something on the tractor then I want to go back with what it should be. It will remain a work tractor.

    How do I read all the parts number? I read the post where you mention how to read the engine code but the number I found on one of the trumpets don't seem to fit that pattern.

    Tim Daley(MI    Posted 03-20-2021 at 17:49:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Kim-
    If you mean the fender bolts to rear axle mount bosses, Carpenter and Just8ns sell the 4-bolt later carriage kit. BUT, before you buy, note that the fender mount bolts were HEX HEADs from '39 thru '50. They were then changed to CARRIAGE BOLTS and that is only what DC and Just8 sells. I believe you have a 1949 8N and thus would have the HEX HEAD fender bolts, The Carriage bolts WILL NOT work as they need a square pilot hole on the fenders AND the axle boss to mate correctly. You can get standard HEX HEAD bolts anywhere but it matters where you but from. Try McMaster-Carr as the standard places in town like ACE, TSC, and Fastenal will rip you off. Look at your fenders and axle bosses. Do you see a square pilot hole? If not, you need hex head bolts. You cannot force carriage bolts into those parts. Also, if you have STABILIZER BAR BRACKETS, you will need extra length bolts no matter which ones you have. The OEM fender bolt is part number 22185-S, listed as 5/8-18 x 5.56 (9/16") HEX HEAD. Since that is no longer a standard Industry length anymore, nor anything in between that and 6, you need to get length in 6" and you will be fine. Add an inch if you are using STABILIZER BRACKETS. Use standard 5/8 Lockwashers and Hex Nuts. The kit DC and Just have are 5/8-18 CARRIAGE BOLTS and the Industry no longer makes carriage bolts in fine thread either.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kimberly    Posted 03-21-2021 at 00:55:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • Just 8Ns show the hex head bolts for years 39-48.

    https://www.just8ns.com/21192-S7KIT-Years-1939-48-Fender-To-Axle-Bolting-Kit

    Kimberly    Posted 03-20-2021 at 23:25:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • I just looked on flea-bay for 49 ford fenders and there was a pair that had the round holes like you said Tim. So the fenders I have are probably not the original fenders. They are in rough shape but I was thinking of repairing them since I thought they were original to the tractor. If they aren't the original fenders, then I might look at getting a good pair rather than spending the money to repair these. I will take a photo of the fender tomorrow.

    Kimberly    Posted 03-20-2021 at 22:23:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • I think I have a 1949 8N but it could be a bastard. I noticed the hydraulic pump had a 1949 date on it and the engine block serial is 49. The fender has a square hole bracket but the holes in the trumpet are round. Here is a photo of the current bolts; I just noticed one is shorter than the other; the fenders could have been off at some time. They were rather corroded so I figured I would replace them on both sides; you can see the head is rather corroded on one. I do have the stabiliser bar brackets.

    Dean    Posted 03-14-2021 at 14:28:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • They are readily available.

    DC, Steiners, etc.

    Dean

    Kimberly    Posted 03-14-2021 at 14:38:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Rear Fender Bolts '49 8N
  • Yes, I checked again and found them on Just 8Ns; they were not listed in the bolt section. I might call them on Monday. A set is $24 plus shipping; which isn't bad considering the size of the bolt.

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