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Jack - Iowa    Posted 03-08-2017 at 12:39:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Farmer Dan - Drawbar Anti-rotation Plate
  • Dan,

    Pretty sure it was your design which I saved. However I do not find information on the thickness of the material you used.

    Thanks,

    Jack

    Farmer Dan    Posted 03-10-2017 at 17:53:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Finally got my computer running again and see I missed a nice conversation. You got a lot of good responses hope you got your rotation under control :-)

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 03-10-2017 at 19:11:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I won't accomplish that until I get back to the farm. Have to check the steel pile and see what I have. Still curious as to what thickness you did use.

    Jack

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-11-2017 at 06:20:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I think you can use whatever ya got handy -anything from 5/16" or 3/8" or 1/4" would be about right. NAPA and TSC sell raw blank bars, billets, and slabs, probably just plain old cold rolled 1018. Don't need anything super fancy like stainless though...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-10-2017 at 12:18:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Greene Engineering Drawbar Lock
  • FORD TRACTOR never offered their own drawbar lock but the original aftermarket supplier for one was a company called Greene Engineering and they offered a nifty little gizmo -see picture below. Originals are rare as hens teeth to find but one of the repop products Red Rock Mfg offers is the drawbar lock Green made -see LINK below...


    Tim Daley(MI)

    HCooke    Posted 03-09-2017 at 08:51:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Here's another one.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 03-10-2017 at 09:10:20 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks Harold.

    For some reason I do not get notification on messages received. Just now found your post.

    Jack

    doug    Posted 03-09-2017 at 10:51:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • stupid question, what are the bars that go up to the top link. i have a set that came with my '53 but im not sure of the purpose. if i install them and tighten the bolts wont they bind up? and the ones that go to the underside of the axle, are they like stabilizers?

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-09-2017 at 12:38:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HiYa Doug-
    Those are called STAY BARS. Their purpose is to keep the height of the lift/drawbar at a certain height for when you need to pull something that you do not want bobbing up and down. Look closely at the right side axle trumpet and observe the SAFETY CHAIN and WARNING BADGE that is part of the set up. It has a lockout mechanism that is held onto the Quadrant Lift Lever via the position stop and wing nut. Once you install the STAY BARS, you DO NOT want to be able to raise or lower the lift arms as you will do irreparable damage to the rear lift and/or hydraulic pump. The SAFTEY CHAIN LOCKOUT is a just that. It keeps the set up in place even if you inadvertently reach down to raise the lift with your fingers. The STAY BARS; WARNINGBADGE; and SAFETY CHAIN ASSEMBLY were part of a shipping kit issued with each new tractor. Harold Cooke‘s picture is a perfect display of both STAY BARS and STABILZER BARS. Often referred to as SWAY BARS, and just as often confused with STAY BARS, they are two completely different devices. STABILIZER BARS connect to brackets mounted underneath the fenders and reach back to the implement, or in this case, the 11 Hole/9N-5182 drawbar. Their purpose is to keep the implement from ‘swaying’ back and forth. They are very effective while using a back blade, mower, brush hog, disc harrow, wagons, and others implements, but not plows. When using STABILIZER BARS, without the STAY BARS, it is then possible to raise and lower the lift without doing any damage provided they are connected properly.

    9N-5370 Drawbar Safety Chain/Warning Badge Assembly; photo courtesy of Del Huebner:

    Another DIY Drawbar safety lock, photo courtesy of Galen Mommens:

    More applications of the 9N-5374 L/R STAY BARS:


    John in Mich    Posted 03-09-2017 at 19:52:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tim,
    Very good information and illustrations with minor exceptions in my opinion. Discs, cultivators, harrows and weeders are draft implements and should not have anti-sway bars attached.
    John

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-10-2017 at 07:57:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I use stabilizer bars with my Dearborn Disc Harrow and Dearborn Spring Tooth Harrow to help keep from swinging side to side when I transport and on turns when I lift. I just find they help track straighter too. Otherwise, mowing and back blading for sure and using my boom. When back blading, I found they are a tremendous advantage especially when pushing backwards. They just help keep the blade from kicking off to one side and add solid support. It isn't mandatory that you use them, I just found they work well for me. I didn't mention cultivators, rotary hoes, or weeders and agree you want some side to side movement as too with a plow.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    doug    Posted 03-09-2017 at 15:36:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • very helpful info there, thank you. so i dont really need the STAY BARS but STABILIZER BARS would come in handy as i use my NAA to tow trailers around my yard. looks i would have to locate a pair of brackets for under the axle tubes.

    Walt/Tx    Posted 03-10-2017 at 12:33:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I use my Jub to move trailers around too and like to be able to raise the drawbar. I use one of the Red Rock locks to keep drawbar from rolling. I back up under the trailer hitch, raise the lift up under the hitch, click the lock and raise the trailer enough that I don't have to raise the trailer jack. I move it and set it down on the jack again. Trailers are empty of course.
     photo IMG_0346_zps0egsw3ja.jpg

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-09-2017 at 18:19:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Other way around. I think you'd want the STAY BARS to keep the lift set at a specific height and not allow it to bob up and down and it will if pulling a trailer or wagon. Both are nice to have and they are sold today at most tractor supply houses as aftermarket items. The STAY BARS are p/n 9N-5374/Upper Arm and 9N-5375/Lower Arm. The SAFETY WARNING BADGE assembly is also sold at some suppliers like the hone I listed. Stabilizer bar kits are sold as well...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    carl nny    Posted 03-09-2017 at 12:15:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • They are called stay bars. They hold the three point drawbar stationary. You want to lock your three point hyd. lever so you don't inadvertently hit the lever and bend something.

    carl nny

    Larry    Posted 03-09-2017 at 12:15:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The side bars are sway bars. Keep things from swaying left or right. The top bars are to keep it down. If you are pulling a large hay wagon and have to slow down without them it will raise up. If you are using an implement that you will need to raise up and down you wouldn't want the top link bars on your tractor.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-08-2017 at 12:58:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Not Dan, but here is a picture of his lock and the link to our HOW-TO's on a DIY article with all dimensions and materials listed...


    Jack - Iowa    Posted 03-08-2017 at 14:05:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks Tim,

    I have a picture of Dan's however in it the device is black and the drawbar probably the faded original 8N paint.

    Your picture shows the side of the plate which appears to be 3/8". I was thinking along the lines of 1/2"

    In the drawing, Marshel used (2) 1/4" plates.

    Jack

    JMOR    Posted 03-09-2017 at 16:03:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • 3/8" is probably overkill as rotation is all trying to control, but use what you have.
    Dan's prototype & final release:

    Walt/Tx    Posted 03-10-2017 at 12:05:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I saw this rig at the Glenrose Tx show.
     photo IMG_0257_zpsoybnudhh.jpg

    JMOR    Posted 03-10-2017 at 12:10:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I do believe he has that one tied down!

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