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Tyler (MD)    Posted 03-10-2017 at 05:27:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Crown Batteries?
  • Replacing an 8 year old "Commercial" battery that was on the 9N. Went to Battery Warehouse in town cause they sell "Deka" batteries. Guy there says they now have "Crown" batteries and they are made by "Deka". Not sure the truth of this but he said they were as good as the Deka battery. For $75 thought I'd give it a try. I figure if I can get 5 years out of a 6v battery, I'm ok with that.

    Any "Crown" reviews? :-)

    Tyler (MD)    Posted 03-11-2017 at 13:40:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I've also noticed I get more mileage out of batteries now that all are on battery tenders/minders.

    Tyler

    Acadianbob    Posted 03-11-2017 at 21:05:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Absolutely! Tender/Minder adds years of life to a battery; partially because of the anti-sulfation I think. Plus, you know that your battery is always going to be ready when you are.

    Ncorrigible    Posted 03-11-2017 at 13:32:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Given the chance ( I wasn't once ) I buy Interstate for cars,trucks and tractors of all sizes. Boats get gel batteries from a different source. I now have one NAPA battery in my truck and 3 Interstates in the rest of my vehicles. The NAPA battery has not let me down, but my level of trust is minimal. My tractors will all get Interstate when their time comes, but I have not had to replace any of them yet. Fickle? Damn right I am.. A tractor that won't is about as useless as breasts on a bull.
    Ice out on Minnesota lakes is a month early. I am glad that global warming is an ugly rumor.

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 03-10-2017 at 12:39:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The original 6V battery is Group Size 1 - 9-1/8 (L) x 7-1/8 (W) x 9-3/8 (H).

    12V Group 25 & Group 35 batteries are just slightly smaller at 9-1/16 x 6-7/8 x 8-7/8.

    When I purchased my 1951 8N, in October, 2002, it came w/ a Deka, model 901MF (made by East Penn). The date code on the battery was April, 2000. I'm not sure how the PO maintained the battery the first two years of its life, but given the overall condition of the tractor when I purchased it, my bet is it sat unused most of the time.
    I always run the N's to operating temp every 3 or 4 weeks if they haven't been used. To make sure the battery doesn't discharge, all the N's now have Battery Tender float chargers. (And that will extend the life of any battery because it stops them from discharging.)

    I also keep everything "clean, bright & tight", use the braided strap & 00 gauge negative cable.

    So, in addition to it being a well made battery, doing everything else right probably helped this battery to make it 8 years & 6 months!

    It finally refused to turn the 1951 over in Sept 2008, so I replaced it w/ a new one. Another Deka, model 901MF. Itís still in the tractor today, no problems.

    Got a Batteries & Bulbs store near you? They sell Duracell 6v batteries.....also made by East Penn. $75 w/ exchange, 640 CCA. They also sell Group 25 & 35 Duracell batteries for $119, and Battery Tender float chargers for $35.

    steveVa    Posted 03-10-2017 at 11:07:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Only ever had 1 Deka battery 12 volt for a truck I had at the warehouse. It weighed a ton and lasted forever.
    If you want a really good and lasting 6 volt, then buy a Trojan battery. They use those for golf carts and solar storage and they last a really long time. But they are pricey. I tried Exide for the boat one year, both cranking and deep cycle, and they did not last very long.

    The best batteries I ever had were Delco sealed 12 volt batteries. I bought several on sale years ago for the boats and cars and for solar storage. They all lasted for over 5 years and I still have 2 that are over 10 years old and they were recharged for trolling motors many many times. They were plain car batteries and worked for everything.

    While talking batteries, if you want my 2 cents, deep cycle batteries are not worth their cost and weight. I have never had even the best ones last over 2 or 3 years. I can buy 2 regular car batteries for the price of 1 deep cycle and they are easier to carry and last just as long. I always take 2 batteries to troll the boat. one I will run till it gets weak, then I know I have the second one to get me home. The two regular high cca batteries last much longer then 1 deep cycle battery.
    I just buy the same batteries for the boat that I use in my F-150 or Expedition. That way I can swap them any time I want and always have a backup. Works great.
    Lastly, the WallyWorld batteries die after 2 years, and the cheap ones they have seem to last longer then their Everlast ones.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-10-2017 at 08:18:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Not pre-judging you here Tyler and certainly welcome your discovery, so hopefully we can get to the truth here. We all know many salesmen usually are just pushing product for the $$$ and really have no technical knowledge of it.; they will say anything to get you to buy. I couldn't find any connection of Crown to Deka either and for the record, no connection with DEKA and EXIDE either. Some have stated that only one all powerful manufacturer makes all the batteries and some are low budget that get sent to TSC and Wally World. My old mantra from my engineering days applies -"show me the data".

    http://www.dekabatteries.com/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exide

    SelectOSpeed    Posted 03-10-2017 at 06:55:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Tyler I had the same scenario here when the supply store I bought Dekas from changed to NAPA. The store owner assured me the NAPA batteries were in fact built by Deka. Wrong!! They are built by Johnson Controls, who build 95% of the private labeled batteries on todays market. I switched to another local supplier for Deka. Now I am trying Exide from TSC. Cheaper too !! I know nothing about Crown batteries other than they are NOT made by Deka. They look appealing though. HTH SoS

    steve19438    Posted 03-10-2017 at 17:22:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I looked at batteries (exide) today at TSC. 79 and change for a 6V with one year guarantee. since the store is but a 1/2 mile from my house I will give that brand a try and see what happens.

    SelectOSpeed    Posted 03-10-2017 at 08:25:50 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • This battery talk got me curious again. After scouring the net, I find numerous claims that Deka Now makes Napa batteries, which were previously built by Exide. Furthermore I have seen much praise for Crown batteries. Interstate some claim are Deka. The big box and national chain auto stores are Johnson Controls built. Delco is said to be Johnson. John Deere "Strong Box" batteries are said to be Exide built. I've had JD batteries last 5 years in a JD 214 LGT. Now I think of the defunct manufacturers like Willard, Prestolite (who made I.H.C and Chrysler OEM), North State, FirePower, Fisk, Auto-Lite (pre FoMoCo), EverReady, Ray O Vac, and Burgess. Nothing is simple anymore. FWIW. SoS

    JMOR    Posted 03-10-2017 at 12:22:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I thought this experience was interesting. Went to Autozone for a MB (factory original battery) replacement battery. When swapping, I immediately noticed the weight difference as substantial. Put each on scale. MB=60 lbs. Autozone replacement= 40 lbs. I'm sure there is a message there somewhere. The price difference as 2:1. It lasted long enough to get rid of the car.

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