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Mike-GA    Posted 05-02-2017 at 16:50:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 1948 Fergy
  • Maybe I wont get booted off,but is a 1948 Fergy (not sure if to or te) a pretty good model to own for general hobby farm usage and mowing? Difference between it and a 9n? Parts available?

    Thank you

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-03-2017 at 08:53:20 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The first Ferguson TO-20 rolled off the line at Ferguson Park, Detroit, MI in October 1948. It used a 4-cylinder overhead valve engine made by Continental Motors, Muskegon, MI. Just to clarify some facts about the Moto-Tug -was designed by Ford at the Rouge, built on the 2N tractor with outside suppliers providing sheet metal and hydraulic brakes and other items. All parts were sent to a dealer in Columbus, Ohio, for assembly there. The first Moto-Tug rolled off the line there in April, 1943.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kirk    Posted 05-03-2017 at 05:34:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The TE is pretty easy to spot even from a distance cause the trans case is aluminum.
    Te would probably have the standard engine were the TO has the continental engine.

    Kirk

    KCM    Posted 05-03-2017 at 16:11:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • TE came with both the Standard engine and Continental. I believe all of the early TE's has the Standard, then they started using the Continental for US models.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-04-2017 at 11:22:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yes, the Standard Motors engine began having issues -cracking easily for one, so Ferguson began importing from Continental.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    KCM    Posted 05-04-2017 at 19:15:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The Continentals also had a cracking issue, between the cylinders. The 30's for sure and probably the 20's. My dad is a mechanic and saw it first-hand.

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 05-03-2017 at 18:22:25 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Ok good to know. Years ago I have a TE with a 120 cont. in it but I thought it might have been a transplant.

    Kirk

    KCM    Posted 05-04-2017 at 19:22:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Have a couple TE's. One was somebodies unfinished project where they were transplanting a Continental in place of the Standard. The other has the factory installed Continental. You can identify the TE with the Continental as it has two rods under the engine running from the axle support to the transmission housing.

    Mike-GA    Posted 05-02-2017 at 21:26:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thank you for the info, a few for sale in my area, just not familiar with them.

    Maineman    Posted 05-02-2017 at 20:38:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Harry furguson imported the "TE" tractor England model until he made arrangements to have the "TO" Tractor overseas model made in North America.
    The main difference is that the "TE" model uses Lucas ignition and imperial hardware.
    The "TO" model use Delco ignition and standard hardware.
    Giving that the tractor you mention is a 1948 I would expect it to be a "TE" model.
    Either tractor is a good machine. But, the "TO" is much better on parts availability and pricing.

    Joe

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-02-2017 at 18:46:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • That manual Del speaks of is, I believe, the 1946 MPC -right during the transition time when Ferguson was fired by Henry Ford II. There really aren't very many parts that cross over from the 2N Ford to the TE/TO 20 Ferguson. Though built to resemble the 2N and was even painted similar dark grey in color to compete with Ford, the TE/TO 20 was basically a completely different animal. They are decent tractors having gone to an overhead valve engine -something Harry Ferguson initially wanted on the 9N tractor. From the guys I know that have them and work on them, parts can be a PITA to get and not cheap. Here's a LINK to the Ferguson Club where you can get much more information on them ...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    KCM    Posted 05-03-2017 at 16:18:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • From where the transmission bolts to the differential housing forward there is basically nothing the same as an 2N, but in the back half many parts will interchange either as pieces or assemblies. Pretty much all the lift components are interchangeable, not surprising since that was Ferguson's design.

    Ferguson came out with a parts book for the TE-20/TO-20 which specifically cross-referenced Ford part numbers to Ferguson, saying which parts are the same.

    Concerning the TO-30, that's a different story as pretty much all the parts changed from the 2N except for the 3-point lift arms.

    Del Huebner    Posted 05-02-2017 at 19:51:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Actually its the 1951 Ferguson Parts Manual Tim. It only lists the parts that are interchangeable with the 9N/2N.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-03-2017 at 08:53:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 1948 Fergy
  • copy that...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    36 coupe    Posted 05-02-2017 at 19:21:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I saw a Ferguson that had an 8N differential put on it when the Ferguson broke a rear axle.Harry had a set of 8n blue prints when he left Ford.Harry did sue Ford for using his hydraulic system.I have the Ferguson differential on hand.I had intended to build a tractor from parts but time flies.

    Del Huebner    Posted 05-02-2017 at 17:25:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • There is a cross-reference for the TO-20 / TO-30 and the 9N / 2N parts in the Manuals section of this site. Look under tractors and click on the Ferguson Parts Manual.

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