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Dan Chisler    Posted 05-07-2017 at 12:32:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Okay here is one for yall . Is there any way to tell aprox year or mod of a tractor that has had a newer motor installed. My 9n Or 2n tractor has a 1950 8n motor in it .It has an iron dash board and an iron steering box top . i know some are aluminum that may be a teltale sign .What other things may tell me what it is ?

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 05-08-2017 at 03:59:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The cast iron dash was only used in mid 1941. Early 41's had the aluminum dash and the later model 41 carried the 2 piece pressed steel dash so if your dash is the one piece dash then in must be a 41,or at least the dash is. Parts get changed around quite a bit on these old Ford.
    Does your governor have an oil line to it? Are your rear end trumpets look solid where the fender bolt goes thru or is there a gap inbetween? These are a couple more things that where done in mid 41.

    Kirk

    Dan Chisler    Posted 05-08-2017 at 12:55:46 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Okay it is difinately cast iron and not pressed steel .and yes the govener has an oil line to it and it keeps reminding me with the leaking oil .I will look at the trumpets . i will be installing sway brackets next visit to the farm so will be rite there .I will study on that tid bit , Kirk thank you so much for your knowledge on this subject ....will report back so for now it could be a 1941 same year as my ac crawler dozer ....

    Dan Chisler    Posted 05-11-2017 at 18:54:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Trumpets have a solid fender boss no gap what might that mean ?

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-08-2017 at 16:10:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • If you do indeed have an 8N motor, then you would probably have the 8N governor with the oil line. Early 9Ns and 2Ns didn't have the oil line to the governor, were three arms, not two like the 8N, but if a customer brought his tractor in to the dealer for service, they were instructed to add the oil line to the governor. It says this in the repair manual- see LINK below. So, if it is a 3-armgovernor with oil line it is later 2N or earlier 9N that was altered. You will find this also explained on John Smiths' site, under TRACTOR ID/HISTORY as well as many other parts that will help you identify model year. Since your is a mutt, the important thing is hat you get 8N parts for the motor. Hydraulics would be the 9N/2N style, draft control only. Electrics, well, we haven't even discussed those yet have we? 6 volt or 12 volt?


    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 05-08-2017 at 13:07:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Your '41 should also have the I beam radius rods.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 05-08-2017 at 13:45:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Yes it does . I thought all 9n and 2n had those ? so if its a 41 that is a war year
    is that rite ? would that make it a 2n ?

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-08-2017 at 15:38:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • 1942 was the year the 2N was introduced, got it by the war board as a new model and thus a slight price increase, by Ferguson; Ford didn't want to hike the price. All 9N and 2N models used the I-Beam radius rods up until 1944,then changed to the oval-tube style. Not ALL 2Ns were war time models either, meaning they all did not come with steel wheels, magneto, and minus a starter. These were only produced for a short duration until Ferguson convinced the President that though the US was involved in WWII now, it was detrimental to the troops and to the homeland economy that we keep the farmers working to produce food and he lifted all wartime restrictions and the rubber and electrics were soon back on 2N models. You can always go to our ARCHIVES forum here and plug in a keyword or words on any topic to view old posts.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Dan Chisler    Posted 05-08-2017 at 18:32:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks Tim great to know so looks like 1941 the last of the 9n ,s.....is what i have.

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 05-08-2017 at 15:06:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • No wartime in 41
    Late 42 early 43

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 05-07-2017 at 12:37:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • John Smith is the best source for that info: http://oldfordtractors.com/

    Dan Chisler    Posted 05-07-2017 at 22:31:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • wow great tips many thanks bruce I printed out the tips ...

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