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Jason Claspill    Posted 09-06-2017 at 12:09:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Good morning.

    I just purchased two 8N tractors. One is nearly complete, a "simple" wiring venture should get it running, and the second needs a more in-depth path to restoration. I am new to tractors, and am requesting the best place to buy used and newish parts for the tractors. I am not going for a show-room quality restoration, I am going for more of a working restoration. This is corny, but one will be mine and the other the wifes. Yes, she will probably get the better one because I like being married to her, and a happy wife equals a happy life. Thank you in advance for tips! I hope to post progress as it comes along and I get more familiar with this webpage.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-07-2017 at 06:32:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HiYa Jason-
    Welcome to the wonderful world of FORD N-SERIES TRACTORS! You came to the right place - “Best Internet source of information and help for old Ford Tractors”. Where you buy new and used part matters a lot, and you have been given many popular suggestions -it matters where you buy. As a newbie, many of us strongly suggest you invest first in the essential manuals needed to be an N-Owner. Originals are always around the Internet auction sites and ADS forums, and new reproductions are also available if you want a hard copy. We offer some of these here in our MANUALS forum for FREE download as well. The I&T F-04 Manual is very good as it covers all the major systems on the 9N, 2N, and 8N, models; the 8N Operator's Manual, the '39-'53 MPC (Master Parts Catalog), the Service Manual, and a new DC parts catalog are useful as well. Most of the parts suppliers listed will stock copies of these. Read them like your Bible. Some of us also suggest going to John Smith's site and read more under the Tractor ID/History section LINK AT BOTTOM:

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-07-2017 at 11:05:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Another great response. Thank you! I want to make sure I do everything correctly, and in a way that respects the tractors and those that enjoy them. I cleared out a space in my shop for them, and once I get them running I plan on building an addition for them and other things I buy. I just hope the wife doesn't kill me and that my industry picks up so I can earn more money to pay for it all. Lol. I will print off the manuals and start reading them tomorrow. Tonight the NFL begins, and I work part-time for the Chiefs and will be glued to the TV while they play in New England. I only work home games, so I enjoy being a spectator when they play in other areas.

    Thanks again!

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 09-06-2017 at 17:29:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • When you have to buy parts, buy used original parts, or the better grade new parts. I've dealt with many people on ebay and with various N-Tractor specialty parts suppliers. The only regrets I have is when I just shopped for new parts, looking for the cheapest price. Cheap tractor parts are junk.

    Mostly, what a neglected tractor needs is cleaning. Clean the outside of everything. Clean out the air filter assembly. Make all wire terminals and connections clean and shiny. Clean the fuel system and screens. Don't forget to clean both ends of both battery cables. File and set the points. Clean and gap spark plugs. The cleaning process will reveal some things that really do need to be repaired, rebuilt, replaced. Once the tractor is completely clean, maybe go nuts and paint it. Change the oil and filter. Check rubber belts and hoses, replace if necessary. Flush radiator, and replace coolant. Change the combination tractor fluid. Carb might need cleaning or a rebuild. Plug wires might need to be replaced. Get a solar or plug-in battery maintainer to keep the battery at a full charge all the time.

    Bruce hit the nail. The first choice should be rebuilding rather than replacing parts. The reason for that is, most of the shiny new replacement parts available today are not as good as the grungy parts already on the tractor. It is way too easy to start working on a badly neglected tractor, and just start replacing everything that looks old. Putting lots of new parts on an old tractor is one of the quickest ways to empty a wallet and get thoroughly frustrated.

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-06-2017 at 18:07:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thank you too! Another very helpful response. I have been on this forum for less than a day, and I have received more help than any other forum I have belonged to in the past. I have a feeling I am going to like it here, lol.

    HCooke    Posted 09-06-2017 at 17:18:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Jason, Where are you in Missouri. I am near Pacific. I have 3 8Ns and 6 9Ns.
    I have always been satisfied with parts I purchased from Just 8Ns. For major parts (generators, carbs, starter motors, distributors) I always buy used and rebuild them.

    Larry (TX)    Posted 09-06-2017 at 13:03:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Jason, simply click on LINKS in the red heading above and there you'll find vendors for most everything you could possibly need for the restorations.

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-06-2017 at 15:22:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Well, that was certainly easy. Thank you! I hope to get used to the navigation on this page, it is different from ones I have belonged to before. I plead innocent this time, but have no excuse for myself in the future.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 09-06-2017 at 12:18:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The first place I look for both new and used is eBay. Lots of sellers and lots of competition. If you want more personalized service I would suggest Just8N's. Good prices and knowledgeable help. I'm sure other folks have their personal favorites as well.

    TOH

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-06-2017 at 12:47:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • TheOldHokie: Thank you! I did check out some on eBay, but wasn't sure if anyone had a bad experience with them. It looked like every item I would need, from my list so far, is available. The only thing I did not see were conversion kits for 6v to 12v. I think that is something I will do since they are not 100% completed yet. I live in Missouri, and the winter can get cold for 6v tractors. Id rather have the tractors ready for the cold and not need it, then not have them ready and regret it.

    Jim    Posted 09-08-2017 at 12:11:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • There are pro and con reasons for converting 6v to 12v. One of the pro's not mentioned is it is a learning process. It can be done without breaking the bank and there is a lot of invaluable experience and knowledge one can gain just by doing and observing. The same with converting to electronic ignition. Experimenting within a budget adds loads of information for the future and makes one a more valuable resource for others which can be a worthy goal as well.

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-08-2017 at 17:28:01 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Jim, that is a very good point. I plan on doing a lot of learning as one of my tractors is not fully put together. I have the majority of the parts, I just need to get it assembled. So, like you mentioned, I am looking forward to the experience and knowledge gained by piecing it together. As far as a budget goes, well, that depends on how my job pays, lol. I am commission based, and if the trucking industry goes south, then so does my pay. I write insurance for commercial truckers and trucking companies, so it is up and down often. At least my wife isn't opposed to me doing this, but that may be because I told her one of the tractors will be hers. I just have to make sure I choose wisely on the tractors...

    Glenn bubbatom    Posted 09-08-2017 at 14:05:01 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Ipurchased a 12v conversion kit for my 1948 8n from Just 8n's and it contained
    everything I needed to make the conversion a success.

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 09-06-2017 at 13:10:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • MO gets about as cold as VA. I own 4 8N's, all 6v, here in VA and never had a problem w/ any of them starting in the winter.

    From my experience, I've only found three reasons to convert an N to 12v:

    1. You need to run 12v equipment (sprayers, pumps, lights, etc)

    2. You have a simultaneous failure of the v/r & generator or battery & the cost to replace those parts is close to or exceeds the cost of a conversion

    3. Your N has poor compression (like less than 90 lbs) and you do not want to rebuild it

    If an N is hard to start in cold weather (or any weather) the owner should find out why & fix it! These tractors have low compression, low HP engines and will start just fine on 6v.

    For new parts, Just8N's is an excellent choice, along with Dennis Carpenter.

    These guys should be able to help you w/ used parts:


    John Smith smith8N@att.net


    Rod Mondor at Forest Lake Tractor fltractor@peoplepc.com or 651 464
    4628


    Ken at Long Lane Tractor lltractor@embarqmail.com or 717-367-8610


    Get OEM components rebuilt. I’ve been working on old cars, trucks & tractors now for over 50 years. Whenever possible, I get OEM component parts rebuilt. Given the high probability that any new component part purchased for an N tractor is made somewhere overseas w/o adequate quality control, chances are very good that you will be disappointed. If you do not have a local rebuild shop, give these guys a call for a quote & shipping info:

    Automotive Manufacturers Inc
    2400 N Lombardy St Richmond, VA 23220
    (804) 321-6861

    They do mail order work. They rebuild carbs, clutches, pressure plates, water pumps, alternators, generators, starters & reline brakes.


    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-06-2017 at 17:22:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Wow, thank you for the info and contact information Bruce! I do appreciate it and look forward to using it during the process.

    John in Mich    Posted 09-06-2017 at 13:04:50 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • 12v conversions: I live in Mich (John in MICH). I have "UMteen" Ford N's. I have never converted one and any tractor that I bought that was 12v, I sold. Not saying that 12v is bad or wrong. Just saying a tractor properly tuned in decent mechanical condition and the proper electrical system should and will start in cold weather. Mind you, I find that often different tractors have little quirks about amount of choke and throttle position when starting (and sometimes I forget... which is which).

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-06-2017 at 15:45:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • John, thank you for the info. Since I have two, I was thinking of finishing the one as a 6v, since I have all the parts for that, and if it has any issues I might put the other as a 12v. I am not sold on it being 12v, I just didn't want to experience any problems I could fix before they happen. If people are saying that well maintained machines are not having issues, then I won't worry about converting, as I plan to keep these machines very well taken care of.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 09-07-2017 at 07:43:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Congratulations on your decision.

    I have a 2N on 6v. and a 860 which was converted to 12 before I purchased it. Both tractors set, shed-ed, on my farm near Mt. Pleasant, Iowa. I fully expect them to start when I need to use them and in 17 years have only been disappointed once other than one failed battery. I do have a 12 volt water pump which I use with the 860 which makes that handy.

    Enjoy the N's!

    Jack

    Jason Claspill    Posted 09-07-2017 at 11:06:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • After every comment on here, you all have convinced me to stay with the 6V configuration. I plan on keeping them inside my shop anyway, so my nerves are calmed about any issues. My shop is not temperature controlled, but I plan on doing a few things to make it somewhat controlled by next Summer.

    Walt/Tx    Posted 09-06-2017 at 13:01:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Click on the "links" tab at top for several parts sources.

    Larry (TX)    Posted 09-06-2017 at 13:07:25 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Oops, sorry Walt - I didn't see your post or mean to steal your thunder; (Harvey must have effected my eyesight as well as my brain!).

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