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Dan Chisler    Posted 09-28-2017 at 05:26:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Ongoing Noise & 9N Footboards
  • farmer Dan(OR) here taking care of some problems got some Ferguson foot boards on the 9n no butchery involved had to put in longer studs and omit the foot pegs and use some 8n ball joint sockets they are the same pattern also pipe spacers had to be made for the triangle mount Everything then kinda bolts up . Had to adjust the clutch rod by removing the clevis locking nut .My orig ford foot boards got stolen off the porch the day they arrived by fed ex . i wish they had rang my door bell .
    Back to the gear noise now . last post a few months ago folks thought it was the transmission bearings bad . Now I notice it is only on the pull any coast goes quiet . That is kinda making me think perhaps the ring and pinyon gear maby way out of adj. or real worn .I want to get my camera involved i think it can take a saund bite so the pros can give a hear of the gear noise. Always enjoy what folks think is up ...

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 09-28-2017 at 08:24:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • One other test you can do to help narrow down where the noise is coming from. Try putting the transmission in high gear. If sound goes away with transmission in high gear, the problem isn't in the differential.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 09-28-2017 at 10:34:17 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Sound still present in any gear on the pull not on the coast . I have had rear ends go bad in cars and that is what it sounds like .Does that sound like ring and pinyon ? first responses thought it was transmission bearings .I have a sweet matched set in the event .

    Farmer Dan(MI)    Posted 09-28-2017 at 05:58:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • What are you using for gear oil? I use 90W mineral oil. Itís a little thick for the Michigan winters but helps keep the noise down with these straight cut gears. I use to get it at my local Napa store but they are so messed up on inventory for the last couple years I'm not sure if they even carry it anymore.
    As far as the foot boards go, I don't believe Ford ever made any for the N model tractors. Steel Craft and a few other aftermarket companies did as well as several "homemade". Can you post a picture so we can see yours?

    Mine are ho-made and I put a tool box inside the right one.

    farmer Dan(OR) Chisler    Posted 09-28-2017 at 05:59:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Rite now i am not using oil . It leaks out threw the lift arm supports . I have some spare parts and when i can get a good place to work on the rig i will try and deal with the problem threw the pto hole .Some one mentioned he was able to hold the nut and tighten the shaft . I wonder how tough it will be to deal with the cotter pin from with in ?
    Where do you get 90 weight mineral oil ? My noise sounds like a ring and pinyon noise and i picked up a nice R & P matched set .In the event that is what it needs .The noise is pretty loud so i don,t run it very much . Just to move it out of the way from time to time. I was using 90 weight gear oil before the major leak started up.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-28-2017 at 06:27:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • farmer Dan(OR)-
    Farmer Dan (MI) (the original) makes a valid point about the foot/running boards. I'll just expand on the SteelCraft running boards though. They were made special to be used with their All Weather Cab and attached via special braces that ran underneath and the cab attached to. The 9N and 2N tractor models never had them otherwise, not from the Rouge nor Highland Park factories. OEM Running Boards didn't appear on Ford Tractors until the 8N Model, first released in July, 1947, one of the 22 new features. Many farmers made their own or had them made. When Henry "Harry" Ferguson built his TE20 and TO20 tractors, he did engineer running boards as standard equipment but that wasn't until 1946/47. The Ferguson running boards will indeed fit a 9N/2N tractors with little, if any modifications. Search the archives to read how others did theirs.
    If you are not using ANY hydraulic/gear oil in your tractor, how does it run efficiently? That could be your problem with 'noises' -you'll ruin the gears and be in for areal job. You do know that the transmission and hydraulic system use the same sump, right? The lift arm attachment points use a tapered pin and a castle nut that you nee d to get to thru the axle trumpets to do, one side for sure. Removing the PTO cover is going to get you nowhere.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-28-2017 at 06:42:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Just wanted to add that any cotter pin used on a castle nut is there for a purpose -to keep the nut from loosening itself up. To do the job right, and you do want to do it right the first time, that means you need to remove the cotter pin in order to tighten the castle nut on the tapered pin. First, the socket/wrench has to fit over the hex of the castle nut -a cotter pin won't allow that and you'll just slip and round it off and/or break the cotter pin off -what a mess then. Also, your leaks may be coming from the brake seals too. Have you investigated them? I don't think you should buy any new parts, especial la R&P, until you determine the root cause(s). Get out your I&T F-04 Manual and start reading up on the R&R procedures for both jobs. Running the tractor without any gear oil is not very wise and the damage may already be done depending on how long you've been doing it.

    Tim Daley(MI)

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