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Tom    Posted 11-21-2017 at 21:18:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Curious to get your thoughts on the prices of N tractors over time. I've only been using these tractors about 10 years, but what have some of you who have been doing this for decades noticed about price trends. Are these tractors going up or down in value? Are 4x4 compact tractors making N's obsolete?

    Wayne N Ind.    Posted 11-23-2017 at 11:16:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Well there goes my investments. Thanks guys. Lol. Just my luck.HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

    Dave H    Posted 11-23-2017 at 10:05:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I have a restored 50 8N that sleeps in the barn under a cover. My "farm" is only 6 acres but on occasion, like grading the road, extracting trees, distributing rock around the pond etc, i need a tractor.

    i finally caved and bought a small compact utility JD with front loader, drive over deck, hydrostat, four wheel drive, power steering, etc. i am an old fart and love just hopping on the JD and go.

    i should have bought the JD 10 years ago.

    my 8N is for memories only.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 11-23-2017 at 11:13:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Dave H on November 23, 2017 at 10:05:37 [URL] [DELETE] :
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  • Dean    Posted 11-23-2017 at 11:50:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Bingo.

    I made the change for users several years ago.

    I still have 4 vintage Fords but none are users aside from my low hour 52 which, with a carryall and Sherman combination, serves as my quad.

    I now have 4 Kubotas. The only potential mistake is my most recent acquisition. Somehow, I convinced myself that I would prefer a RTV-X1100C to my 52 for quad duties, so bought one about 3 months ago. So far it has been out of the barn once as I much prefer the 52.

    Still trying to figure out what to do with the RTV. Maybe I will find it more inviting next summer when it is once again hot and the AC becons, or this winter if it snows and the heated cab and front mounted snow plow beckon. Time will tell but I can see myself selling the RTV. I will likely never sell the other 3 Kubotas.

    Dean

    Icechickenx    Posted 11-22-2017 at 15:35:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I cut, rake and square bale with two N's. they are cheaper than other tractors...cheaper to run and maintain!! I can beat the price of anyone around me on squares because my overhead is low. Both tractors bought and paid for and so us all my other equipment.

    Dean    Posted 11-22-2017 at 09:29:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Prices of "antique" tractors, including Ns, collapsed during the most recent recession, and have not recovered.

    As TOH notes, used diesel CUTS are now available for modest prices, displacing Ns, etc., as small users.

    Do not expect any significant recovery, absent a few models/brands.

    Dean

    Ultradog MN    Posted 11-22-2017 at 09:27:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I would say that part of the reason for the decline in value on Ns is the Internet in general and forums like this in particular.
    Aside from nostalgic reasons, for the last 20 years or so Ns were usually entry level tractors. But now a guy wanting to buy a tractor can easily get on his computer and do a little bit of research on the best value in a tractor.
    It doesn't take a lot of effort to find forums like this where things like the advantages of live hyds, live pto, PS, etc are discussed. So a guy can look for a tractor armed with a LOT more knowledge than he could in the past.
    We have all seen threads where a prospective buyer asks which tractor he should buy - an 8N for $1800, a Jubilee for $2300 or a 3000 for $2800. Anyone who is being honest is going to tell him that both the Jube and 3000 are a better value - assuming of course they all run decently, have average tires, tin, etc.

    Larry    Posted 11-22-2017 at 08:48:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • All good answers here. I'd say basic economics of supply and demand has a factor in everything.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 11-22-2017 at 05:48:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I purchased a 1941 9N in 1987 for $3500. New tires all around and fresh paint covering a cracked block that had been hidden with Bondo. That was the going price.

    I purchased a 1950 8N about 5 years ago for $800. Runs fine but needs paint and new rear tires. That is now the going price.

    Today I can get a nice 20 year old 4WD compact diesel tractor for what I paid for the 9N. I keep the N's for nostalgia more than anything else.

    TOH

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-22-2017 at 05:44:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • It's not just Ford Tractors but all vintage models today are low in value here in Michigan and elsewhere. A 9N; 2N; or 8N average around $1800 running decent. Ten, fifteen, twenty years ago they averaged about double that. We're talking an average model, not an early 1939 9N or early 1947(8) 8N. Sometimes you can get a good deal as the seller throws in a plow or back blade or mush hog or all of the above. Even the collectors are struggling now -just look at the early 9Ns for sale. I have a friend who buys and sells vintage tractors and equipment. He can't explain the trend now. Vintage implements like Dearborn seem to carry very ridiculously high prices on fleabay and I don't see anyone buying them at those prices. Deals can be found if you have the patience. Years ago there was rumor some buyer was scarfing up all the N's and equipment and exporting them down to South America for resale and where they desperately needed farm equipment. N's are perfect for the hobby farmer, newly transplanted retired city dwellers who've moved out to the country and need something to mow and plow snow with that is larger than a riding mower. They are all over my area and state. You can't throw a rock around here without hitting a vintage Ford tractor. That's the awe in these machines too -they last forever. So many are still in the field working. Many owners have their N's and also newer models like JD, M-F, New Holland, or Kubotas. For the extra $$$ today, I'd get something better than an N for a working tractor if I were shopping vintage Ford. The Hundred Series and Thousand Series can't be beat and for what N's use to sell for they can be had for about the same price. Live PTO, Power Steering, and more HP engines are well worth the price in my opinion.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 11-22-2017 at 05:21:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Prices are way down on the N tractors. With the price of later model tractors with more HP and more options coming down why would you buy an N tractor?
    Around here you can buy a ready to work N tractor for $800/$1000 and dirt cheap for non runners.
    Exception to the rule, of course, is the '39 9N with an aluminum hood.

    Kirk

    steveVa    Posted 11-22-2017 at 00:45:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I find my 8N is great for pulling a grading blade and grading our gravel road.
    I find my Jubilee great for dragging logs, launching boats, pulling a wagon or a trailer, or running a 5 foot mower.
    I use my Kubota for running a 5 foot tiller and for moving dirt and stone and pushing over trees with the front end loader.
    I leave the tiller on the back for a counter balance to the loader, works great.
    I leave the back blade on the 8N and the boom pole or the wood trailer on the Jubilee.
    8N's are obsolete, they were when Ford released the Jubilee. And the Jubilee was too when the released the 600. They are still great tractors and work great for different tasks. It is enjoyable to grade the road with the 8N. It is just work to grade with the Kubota.
    I have had all three tractors since 2001 or so and prices have not changed either way around here. It all depends on condition, tires and bonus items like the Sherman.

    steveVa    Posted 11-22-2017 at 18:16:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • And the new Cub Cadet has a 46" deck and a CUP HOLDER!! How could I forget Cubbie...

    Tony    Posted 11-22-2017 at 20:57:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • .....and torque drive. No gear shifting and instant reverse. (if you disable the blade interlock so the blade will keep turning in reverse)

    Might be a Ca. only thing though.

    Jimmyjack    Posted 11-21-2017 at 21:38:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Down, for a few more bucks you can buy a real tractor. Nostalgia is the reason for buying an N

    Doug Siperly    Posted 11-21-2017 at 22:47:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Real Tractor? Really? The reason they are so popular is in part that it is still a revelant piece of equipment. a "REAL " tractor can trace many of its main features to the 9n Ford. Nostalgia has its place as well, but there are many N Fords more than earning their keep

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