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Doug    Posted 11-28-2017 at 21:59:20 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I have to do a quick head gasket on my 52 8N for this weekends tractor parade. Is it possible to do it without removing the gas tank and hood? It has bolts not studs.

    R Geiger    Posted 11-30-2017 at 11:29:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I would make sure the head is not warped!

    36 coupe    Posted 11-30-2017 at 15:23:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I would torque the head before I pulled it off.

    Gaspump    Posted 11-29-2017 at 16:34:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • One of the primary reasons Ford Tractor switched from head studs to bolts is just whatyou asked about. Yes the head can be changed without removing the hood but I as others mentioned prefer to first remove the hood for better access and good visual check of the cylinders and valve action.

    HCooke    Posted 11-29-2017 at 12:12:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I can do the job quicker by taking the hood off. Used to o it by myself, but would want an assitant now. No way I would even think about leaving the hood on.

    Farmer Dan    Posted 11-29-2017 at 09:56:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I've done it on my 9N with out removing the hood but its a lot easier with the hood off. My block has studs not bolts.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-29-2017 at 07:06:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I would agree to remove the hood and tank first but advise getting a buddy, wife, girlfriend, son, daughter to help. I also strongly advise when doing so to first disconnect the battery so if something shorts out, you won't fry something and cause more work. I don't know what a 'quick job' is for anything, but it usually means the task will have to be redone sooner or later correctly. Avoid shortcuts, temporary fix/Band-Aids. Do It Right The First Time. It doesn't matter if it has hex bolts or studs and nuts, it is the work involved and if the head has not been off in a long time, even more reason to do the job right. Why do you think it must be done now just for a weekend parade? I'd use it as-is and do the head job after when you are not under a time constraint -it is Wednesday now - and when the job can be done correctly. Just my advice...you asked.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    doug    Posted 12-01-2017 at 08:51:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • so the head gasket went well, sure it would have been easier with the hood off but it worked. we cleaned the block off and the head also, both seemed to be fine. we also did an oil change (i think it was the first one since 1952). started up with no smoke and ran good. let it get up to temperature and re-torqued the head bolts. we messed with the lights a little and are going to attempt to change out one of the front tires.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 12-01-2017 at 09:35:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Probably went easier than the valve cover gasket on TOOH's BMW 328i. That was a 7.5 hour job even with the hood up ;-)

    TOH

    doug    Posted 12-01-2017 at 09:57:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • well when the one on my daughters goes ill look you up lol. i'm afraid to touch anything under the hood of that car.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 12-01-2017 at 15:33:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Don't look me up. I researched what was required to get the valve cover off and promptly made an appointment with the poor guy that works at my local garage. It was his first one and he was not a happy camper when I picked it up two days later. He was even less happy when I told him my 335i needed the same work and I would be bringing it by in the near future.

    The job is bad enough but the 18 aluminum valve cover bolts are non-reuse and you have to by new ones - only available from BMW @ $5+ each. Might as well do the $150 eccentric shaft position sensor while they are in there because it will start wicking oil internally and self destruct sometime in the first 100K. That is what necessitated the job on the 328i and it's right about 70k and just barely out of the 100k / 5 year CPO warranty....

    TOH

    doug    Posted 11-29-2017 at 09:14:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • the town my scout troop is in has a tree lighting this weekend and they have a tractor parade and i tow a trailer with a bunch or Cub and Boy scouts on it. id rather not smoke them out behind the 8N lol. i am not opposed to removing the hood and tank and this wouldn't be a quick hack job, my dad was a mechanic for 30 plus years so we have the knowledge and what not to do the job. i was just wondering if it could be done with out removing the hood and tank.

    JMOR    Posted 11-29-2017 at 09:52:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • "Smoke them out?" Coolant smoke?

    Doug    Posted 11-29-2017 at 10:59:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • yes, thick white smoke, steam or smog whatever the correct term is. it has a very sweet smell to it and there is oil in the radiator but no coolant in the oil at least that we can tell. that leads us to believe its a head gasket.

    Farmer Brown    Posted 11-29-2017 at 05:57:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Quicky repairs often result in repeated repairs. Don't put your tools away.

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 11-28-2017 at 22:30:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Might be possible, but way more difficult. It would take me a lot longer, and bust more knuckles with the hood/tank in the way. It only takes a few minutes to remove the hood/tank/doglegs as one piece.

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