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Tony Sanchez (OR)    Posted 12-13-2017 at 01:55:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Extra Hole on the Dash
  • My 46 2N has a hole just below the key switch on the dash. I just found out from a member here that my 2N came without lights. The dog legs have the plugs where the headlights would mount. Did the factory leave this hole open if the tractor came without lights? I don't see any other reason why it would be there. The dash only has the two gauges and the choke knob. Still cant figure out how to post pictures.Thanks
    Tony

    AL CT    Posted 12-13-2017 at 17:43:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tony,
    Your question is a valid one. Over the years farmers would do some strange things to their tractors. Adding a light switch is one very strong possibility. Is it about 7/16" in diameter? That would be about the correct diameter for a switch. If it never had head lights, maybe a rear work light.
    The search for the correct answer is probably lost to history.
    AL CT

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-13-2017 at 20:15:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Al _the correct answer is given below in my other post, nothing to question or lost to history. That's the way it was. I will try to find my original light switch template that came with the lighting kit and post. It was posted a long time ago but no longer since photoplucket put the kibosh on sharing.

    Tim

    AL CT    Posted 12-13-2017 at 23:30:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tim,
    Just because you have template doesn't mean that is related to the mystery hole in the dash. Try to understood what I said "lost to history" means just that. No one knows who or why a hole was drilled in a dash.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-14-2017 at 07:55:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • HiYa Al-
    Yes, touché, any extra non-original hole in the dash or anywhere could have been done for any reason. Maybe the farmer had a cigar lighter installed there when they became a new accessory with the 8N, who knows? I was pointing out that lighting kits all came with an instruction sheet showing exactly where to mount the light switch, BUT, many farmers just purchased the kits and installed the lights themselves and put the switch wherever they wanted to. Dealer mechanics also did this -whatever was fastest and easiest. The original lighting kit for the early 9N has the switch mounted at the 5 O'Clock position from the IGNITION ON lamp on the dash. I'm not 100% certain, but I think the 9N dash came pre-drilled, maybe later ones. The 9N Light Installation sheet does not specify if a hole needs to be drilled; it only shows the location to mount the switch. According to the installation sheet for the early 8N ( '48 - '50 ) the light switch was to be mounted on the RH dash lower portion under the voltage regulator with a special plate. Today's aftermarket VR's also have that plate for the switch available too. In 1950 when the distributor was changed to the angle (side) mount style and the generator moved to the left side, the lighting kits then included the switch template to move it to the left side dash panel at 7 O'Clock from the ammeter. It shows to mark and drill a 13/32" hole to mount the switch in. At the same time as these changes occurred, the headlight 'winged' medallions were then changed to the Round Cup mount style, and the hoods now only had one punch-out for headlight mounting. Years ago Al, you sent me some decals for the Rest-O-Ride seat. Now I can return the favor. If you would like copies of the lighting kit drawings, email me with your address and I will send you a set.
    -Tim

    EARLY 9N DASH PANEL:

    1948 – 1950 FORD 8N LIGHTING KIT INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS:

    1950 – 1952 FORD 8N LIGHTING KIT SWITCH TEMPLATE:

    8N LIGHT SWITCH MOUNTING POSITION LH DASH AFTER MID-1950:


    EARLY 8N LIGHT SWITCH MOUNTING, RH LOWER DASH OFF VR, 47-50:

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-13-2017 at 05:41:17 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tony-
    NO FORD N-SERIES TRACTOR ever came from the Rouge or Highland Park factory with lighting kits installed on them. Lighting kits were always optional accessories available from the dealer. When a farmer purchased a new tractor, he could also purchase a lighting kit if he desired and either he or the dealer could install them. The Ford N-Series doglegs, except early 9Ns, came with two punch-outs where the headlights would mount. Two because the headlight mounting 'medallion', otherwise known as the 'wing', had a 5/16 tapped boss on the back to mount to dogleg. The wing had a large hole where the headlight hollow mounting bolt fed thru and there was a rectangular backing plate on the inside of dogleg to support it. Where the farmer or dealer drilled a hole for the light switch varied. Dashes did not come pre-drilled from the factory for a light switch. Lighting kits had instruction sheets included and showed where the hole was 'suppose' to go, but not always adhered to. The 9N, 2N, and early 8N all had only an AMMETER on the left dash and the OIL PRESSURE GAUGE on the right side, with the choke knob on the lower right -that's it. When the 8N changed to the angle mount distributor, they added a PROOFMETER on the lower RH dash panel. What do you think you are missing or should have? I suggest you invest in some good reading material on Ford Tractors for more info and get the essential manuals too.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Den N Ms    Posted 12-13-2017 at 18:35:11 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tim. The 9N, 2N, and early 8N all had only an The 9N, 2N, and early 8N all had only an AMMETER on the left dash on the left dash.

    Not all 2Ns had a AMMETER in the dash.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-13-2017 at 20:10:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Uh,
    That's what I said. AMMETER LH side, OIL GAUGE RH SIDE. The 2N War Time Model only had no ammeter thus the dash hole was spot welded shut with a plug...Tim

    -photo courtesy of Chris Eby

    Tony Sanchez (OR)    Posted 12-13-2017 at 21:44:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Interesting information regarding a small hole. I like to keep thing original as much as possible. I'm no nut when it comes to getting it perfect. It's possible that sometime long ago somebody put a switch in here for something or another. I do know that this 46 didn't have lights, but they are so old that who really knows. When I restore this one, I will plug weld this hole and call it (factory dash). Tim that is a really great picture of the dash from the War Time Tractor. The option for not adding a ammeter was to plug the hole with a slug. Great feature. Like they say: Simple is good.

    Thanks for the info.
    Tony

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-14-2017 at 09:53:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Extra Hole on the Dash
  • Yes, Tony, like I replied to AL CT above, no telling what an extra hole was drilled for, especially when no signs of headlights/switch were mounted, -cigar lighter, dash light, cup holder -who knows. Some guys removed the key switch and added a toggle switch too for starting. Another feature on the 2N Warhorse models was, since they had no electrics, no generator, nor starter were used, and thus the starter pocket was also plugged with a screw-on plate.

    2N WARHORSE - LH SIDE VIEW:

    -photo courtesy of Chris Eby

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