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Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-30-2018 at 08:52:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Working on a friends tractor ('84 M-F) as he has had overheating issues late last year while mowing. At first I was going to replace the thermostat, then discovered that parts for these are no longer available. Then I found three pin holes in the radiator and realized what a PITA it is going to be to pull the radiator and take to a repair shop. I recall when I was teen, there was product we used called BARS-ALL or BARS-LEAK for small leaks. It was a temporary band-aid fix, I used it once on my '68 Ford Falcon and it seemed to work. So, what do you guys think? Try some bars-leak or pull radiator and service? I can't convince my friend to scrap out the M-F and get something better but really don't want to muck around with pulling this thing either. Is this stuff worth trying or is there something better?

    Tim Daley(MI)

    lonestarjeff    Posted 04-07-2018 at 16:02:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • What did you end up doing?

    Kimberly    Posted 04-06-2018 at 08:23:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • What about that flex seal stuff they advertise on the telly; just spray it on the leak area.

    If you think you can reach the area; you could try some JB Weld and just smear it over the leak and see what happens.

    36 coupe    Posted 04-02-2018 at 06:01:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A friend used roofing cement on his Model A.A hardware clerk called it monkey dung..

    Andy B (MI)    Posted 03-31-2018 at 20:22:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • For what it's worth, I've got a old Jeep Willy's CJ5 that we got running and it was leaking collant out the radiator, manifold stud, and rear coolant plug. I bought a some some $9 of "radiator stop leak" at the Meijer. Just kept dumping it in a bit at a time until all the leaks stop, and it's been mudding a lot this spring with no overheating. Bottle had some jelly type stuff full of copper flakes

    steveVa    Posted 03-31-2018 at 12:52:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tractor is 34 years old. Has the radiator/cooling system been recently flushed out? If not I would flush it, use some stop leak in just water till the leaks stop. When you fill it with water use a gallon jug to see how many gallons it takes. Than when the leaks stop, drain half of the water and add antifreeze.
    If tractor is their only one and livelihood for a business that is dependent on that one tractor, I would pull radiator and fix right. If a backup or hobby tractor, fix with stop leak or pepper...
    Just my half a nickel...

    Rustyal    Posted 03-31-2018 at 09:57:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Iíve used black pepper for a small hole. And the leak stop for what Iíd guessed to be a crack not in the radiator. Also worked on a car that had the leak stop in it. The cooling system was a mess. Not sure that the mess wasnít caused by the leak stop. Or just poor maintenance.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 03-31-2018 at 05:24:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Used Bars Leak many times over the years. I've also used Red Pepper once. No complaints! Never have had a heater plugged either.

    Jack

    Larry    Posted 03-31-2018 at 08:39:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Tim this stuff worked for me in and old Toyota. My son ran it without water on the way to college. When I towed it home and put antifreeze in it to check it out it actually blew it out the exhaust pipe. Used this stuff and drove it for 3 years. Sold it to a guy and he drove it for quite a while. You have to drain out all the old antifreeze and take out the stat. Put this in and then run it till it stops leaking. It didn't take long. K&W block sealant.

    JMOR    Posted 03-30-2018 at 19:24:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I looks like it could be pepper? But the product is "Perm-O-Seal" radiator stop leak by the JB Weld company & I have it in three radiators all holding & one since the late 90's. I believer! I can only wish I was part owner of the company. :)

    HCooke    Posted 03-30-2018 at 12:45:50 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Like Deanostoy, I haveused black pepper with good results.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 03-31-2018 at 08:32:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Are we talking plain ground black pepper or the unground peppercorns about the size of 2mm balls? I think BARS-LEAK has some type of ball in a liquid suspension doesn't it? I usually don't go for any quick-fix procedures, will make attempts to do the job right, but I'm just fed up with working on this M-F. I worked on it last summer for several weeks, and that's when I discovered they no longer service these POS models. These sues Japanese made engine by TOYOSHA, also no longer in business and none makes parts either. He wants to keep it despite my pleas for him to buy something newer like a Kubota, but the tractor was purchased by his dad and has memories. I also tell him that I can go to any tractor parts supplier and buy parts for Ford 9N and 8N no problem. I go onto say that buying an N would be perfect for what he uses it for -mowing grass and discing/planting food plots. He also could now use an N for plowing snow too and it would be a lot cheaper than a new model.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kimberly    Posted 04-06-2018 at 08:19:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I know about memories and all but maybe he should park it; he can think about Dad and the memories when he sees the tractor and have something better for work.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 04-01-2018 at 06:59:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Off the shelf in the spice department. Finely ground. Apparently makes no difference if you get black pepper or red. Bars-Leak looks like sheep s--- in liquid. (I used to raise sheep)

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 03-30-2018 at 12:09:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I normally avoid all the mechanic-in-a-can solutions. They generally don't work and make a bigger problem to fix later. But there are always exceptions. Many years ago, my sister was driving a beat-up car with well over 100k miles. It may have been over 200k. She couldn't afford anything better, and couldn't afford to have a real mechanic do any service on it. A rock knocked a tiny hole in the radiator when she was a few hundred miles from home. She called me knowing even though it hadn't overheated yet, no way would it make it all the way home with steam coming out the front. I made no guarantees, but suggested she go to a parts store, get a container of Bars Leaks, a jug of pre-mix 50:50 antifreeze to top off, and to PLEASE wait till it cools off before trying to remove the radiator cap. I thought she would call me back in a few minutes needing instructions, but she found a parts store with someone who actually had what she needed, and was very helpful. He said the same thing I did, "no guarantees". She headed home, never saw another whiff of steam, and drove that car for several more years with the same radiator in it. If it was my car, I would have yanked the radiator first chance I had, and take it to a shop to be fixed or replaced.

    Jim Ok.    Posted 03-30-2018 at 11:46:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Pull the radiator and fix it right.

    Dean    Posted 03-30-2018 at 10:48:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Not a believer in stop leak.

    Yes, many will stop small leaks temporarily but none provide "permanent" solutions.

    Be especially careful in automotive applications as using such band aids can clog heater cores.

    Dean

    deanostoybox    Posted 03-30-2018 at 09:12:27 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Black pepper. Yes sir, The ground black pepper you buy at the grocery store to put on your food. Put a tablespoon full in the radiator and let it run until it reaches operating temperature. Cheap, effective, and does not gum up or leave nasty deposits in the motor or radiator. Learned the trick from an old radiator guy. We had a fire truck that got a piece of straw that poked a hole in the radiator during a grass fire. The chief told the radiator guy "guess we have a job for you". Radiator guy looked at it, said "put a tablespoon of pepper in it". I was skeptical. Put the pepper in. Fire truck was retired 15 years later, radiator was never fixed. Been using pepper for small leaks for more than 40 years.

    later
    deano

    Farmer Dan    Posted 03-30-2018 at 09:32:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • works on '73 Road Runners too

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