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BrianS, NE    Posted 04-04-2018 at 09:23:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Starting issue
  • Using the '48 this weekend. Running a sprayer while doing a prescribed burn. Great time to have an issue.

    All original 6 volt system.

    Started/ran fine. I killed it climbing out of a cornfield in the wrong gear. Tried to restart. Got nothing. All I get now is a buzz. It sounds like this is coming from the solenoid. Pull started fine to get her home.

    How can I can confirm a solenoid issue rather than starter issue?

    BTW, even with the N dead, the burn turned out great. The habitat should look really nice in a couple weeks, if it ever warms up.

    BrianS, NE    Posted 04-10-2018 at 12:01:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Sorry for not posting back sooner. Crazy weekend.

    The issue ended up being the ground cable. Looked fine form above. Once I pulled the battery cover and got a better look, it was pretty much corroded through. Changed it out. All is good.

    Thanks for all the suggestions.

    Brian

    36 coupe    Posted 04-07-2018 at 12:22:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Make sure the transmission is in neutral the apply 12 v direct to starter with a 12 volt battery pack.Best tool you can own.$40.00 buys one.They have a light that can be used when power goes down.You could have a locked starter drive.I use mine to power a small 120 volt inverter that runs solder irons when power line goes out.Keeps my shop running.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 04-05-2018 at 15:04:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HiYa Brian-
    Is your sprayer 12 volts? I thought all sprayers were 12 volts nowadays, hard to find a 6 volt unit. Check the battery first as mentioned to see if it is drained. Did you notice any negative or no-charge scenario on the ammeter prior to? Next step would be the generator and voltage regulator -local starter shop can check all of the above.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    BrianS, NE    Posted 04-05-2018 at 15:29:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Sorry guys. I should have mentioned, the sprayer pump is a roller pump on the pto.

    I haven't had a chance to get back into the shed. May not be until this weekend.

    Thanks for all the suggestions. Will be checking them all.

    Brian

    Ozlander    Posted 04-05-2018 at 10:49:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Sounds to me like the generator could not keep up with the demand and the tractor and the sprayer.
    Maybe just the engine speed was to low.
    But, I'd be checking to see if the generator is charging.

    Ozlander    Posted 04-06-2018 at 13:13:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • First thing, make sure your fan belt is good and tight.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 04-04-2018 at 14:06:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Sounds like the solenoid is buzzing due to low voltage. I have had battery cables which looked just fine but which were corroded inside the end termination. Check your battery but be sure and check EACH cable termination from the battery to the solenoid. Also check the ground path from the solenoid clear back to the battery. A weak link anywhere in the chain and the chain is no good.

    Good Luck,

    Jack

    BrianS, NE    Posted 04-04-2018 at 12:47:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks guys. This gives me a couple of things to look at tonight. I appreciate it.

    Rustyal    Posted 04-04-2018 at 13:29:14 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Sounds like a battery not charging. Could be cables, bad ground ect. I have battery cable corrosion problems regularly. Guess it could be the humidity.

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 04-04-2018 at 11:25:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The solenoid is making a noise because of low voltage. That is likely caused
    by:

    1. A weak battery (charge it & check it per tip # 49. Or get it load
    tested.)*

    2. Dirty grounds/connections (remove the cables & clean the connections)

    3. Bad cables or incorrect sized cables (replace them - see tip # 41)**

    4. Bad ground between the starter & the block. (pull the starter away from the block & clean the mating area - see tip # 36)


    * No matter what else you do, the battery must be fully charged. A float charger is helpful; not a trickle charger, but a float charger. (I use Battery Tenders on all my tractors) If you need to jump it, see tip # 43.
    ** You can't see corrosion under the insulation.

    grizz    Posted 04-04-2018 at 09:54:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • jump across solenoid with screw driver see if it turns starter

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 04-04-2018 at 11:27:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • And if he does that and it does not turn the starter, he could just as easily have a weak battery, bad cables or grounds.

    Best to start the troubleshooting at the battery.

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