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John Poe    Posted 04-15-2018 at 23:23:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Conversion
  • Wanted to say thanx for the info and give an update. Am doing a 4x4 and diesel conversion to a 9 n that was going to be junked. We are moving forward (slowly between weather and work) on the conversion. Have put the new frame in place, 2"x3"x1/4" attached from the rear axle. Front axle has been mounted (went with a GM 2 1/2 ton front axle - new gears are being made for the diff, along with the shafts - had to shorten the housing to match with width of the rear axle). The engine mounts are in place and the block has been bolted in for measurements. The orbital has been put in place and will be using hydraulic steering on the front. The loader has been matched up and mounting points are in the works for it. A lot of work still to go, but has been a lot of fun so far. Will post a link to the build page on facebook once we get our act together lol.

    Issues as of now, whether to run a power stering pump to power the orbital and use the pto for the loader, or go a full hydro pump route. Getting the sheet metal to look good with the changes in what's going under it, and figuring out how to put a bigger tank in. Finding a radiator that will fit but still be enough to work with the engine.

    For those wondering am going with the 7.3 non turbo diesel engine.

    steveVa    Posted 04-18-2018 at 12:20:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Sounds like a great project.
    Do you already have the 7.3 motor?
    Are they easily available and relatively cheap?
    I keep looking at the Cummins 3.9 4BT as a candidate to stick in a tractor or something like an older MGB.

    John Poe    Posted 04-20-2018 at 07:02:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I already had the 7.3. I honestly don't know how readily available they are. The Cummins are good engines, but, I hadn't even attempted to look for one I would have liked to have gotten a 12 valve non computer if it have been possible but I know that those are going for high-dollar at this time

    Farmer Dan    Posted 04-16-2018 at 03:53:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Can you use square tube steel for the frame, then seal the frame and use it for a hydraulic fluid tank and fuel tank?

    John Poe    Posted 04-16-2018 at 07:59:25 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Wow great question. I have made similar setups, building motorcycle frames where we used the frame as the oil tank. However I am hesitant on this build because of all the mount points and drill through points on the frame, then the need to coat the interior of the frame.

    It would free up space taken by the hydro tank, and certainly be a great talking point or bragging point lol. I feel it is just to much to add onto the build.

    Farmer Dan    Posted 04-16-2018 at 18:31:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Agree it would be a lot of time to weld everything up but that's part of the magic of a good clean build. Think how nice it would look and how many problems it would solve.

    John Poe    Posted 04-20-2018 at 07:05:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Yes I agree, as I am done them with motorcycles in the past. But I like the idea of the old school look with these tractors with the exposed tank. If it holds enough I was thinking of using a fire extinguisher or some similar form of tank for the hydraulic tank for it.

    JMOR    Posted 04-16-2018 at 01:57:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • WOW! An ambitious project!

    John Poe    Posted 04-16-2018 at 08:11:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I was able to save the ol girl from being junked. I have been wanting a 4x4 diesel tractor, but, not willing to pay the $25k+ those go for and kind of leery buying a used newer tractor.

    Had experience from restoring my pride and joy 9n (see pic), have the shop to make parts as I need em (have been building and running Monster Trucks for over 30yrs) so I figured why not. When I found there were no real conversion kits available I went for it. I was lucky to have someone from here link me to blueprints for the mounting plates to the tranny and rear. Was just a matter of figuring how to set up the T-Case.

    N series just aren't good with loaders so I figured an actual from welded to the rear end would be the best route. Makes it much stronger, gives it needed weight to handle the heavier loads, and takes stress off the engine as the mount for the front end.

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