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ron knight    Posted 05-31-2018 at 19:17:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • how to fix hood so it will hinge up and toward front of tractor and where to move the gas tank this is a 1949 8n i am a newbe. thank you

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 06-01-2018 at 09:10:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • 1 - The radiator neck sticks thru a hole in the hood, so the hood can't tilt, unless that is solved.
    2 - Headlight wires can be re-routed on the engine, down to the hinge point, and up to the lights, so the wires don't get stretched, or have to be unplugged to tilt the hood.
    3 - Fuel tank is a problem. Rerouting the fuel line similar to the headlights, and providing a flexible piece at the hinge point, would most likely require adding a fuel pump. It would still gravity feed, but the additional length and bends would severely restrict flow. Leaving the tank in place, with a new set of brackets, would basically defeat the purpose of making the hood tilt.

    This is what I came up with for my V8 conversion:


    1-The tank is a 5 gallon steel tank intended for a small generator. The tank had to be relocated anyway, since it would not fit over the V8 carb.
    2-The radiator is mounted lower, in front of the axle carrier, so the radiator cap is accessed when the hood is raised. The original radiator cap became a hood ornament.
    3-The V8 already had a fuel pump, but the fuel line ended up being very short, since the tank does not move.
    4-The original fuel door is welded to the hood. The original battery/fuel door latch is what secures the hood when closed.
    5-The battery still fits in the original location, barely. It may be changed to a side post type to make it easier to attach battery cables.
    6-The hood sits at the original height, but had to be stretched 9 inches longer. I used two old beat-up hoods to make one rat-rod hood. I'm still on the fence about doing body work and a nice paint job, or replacing the dog legs with ratty ones and staying with the rat rod look.

    ron knight    Posted 06-01-2018 at 09:52:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • thank you so much for ur help you have exsplained a lot, would love to see some pic's when u get it done.

    Bruce    Posted 05-31-2018 at 19:32:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Fix? Are you thinking that's how it's supposed to be?

    The Ferguson's had a hood that flipped , not the Ford's.

    I'm sure that with enough time and money you can come up with something.

    ron knight    Posted 05-31-2018 at 20:18:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • no i knew that didn't come that way sorry should have said so. I've seen pic's of old ford tractors that had been changed. i thought maybe there was a websight to look at. but thank you for helping

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 06-01-2018 at 06:42:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HHHMMMM... never saw a web site with that info, but doesn't mean it isn't out there and many of us would like to see that. If you find it, please post back with the LINK. I just don't see how that would be possible though. Think about it for a minute. The 9N, 2N, and 8N 4-cylinder flat-head tractors have the gas tank bolted to the hood. If it has lights, originally the headlight wire was run up one side and secured the gas tank lip with clips. The back of hood is fastened to the dash panel. The doglegs are fastened to the hood as well. The air cleaner, on the 8N has its door on the hood side panel. 9N/2N models may have a thru the hood stack. Add the fact that the hood would be inhibited from forward motion with the grille and radiator in place. Not only is it impractical, it would be impossible to do, IMHO.

    Like Bruce(VA) said, Ford 9N, 2N, and 8N Series tractors never had flip-up hoods. It was the Ferguson TE/TO models with OHV engines that offered flip-ups. The NAA and Hundred Series models offered access via the hood as well.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Larry TX    Posted 06-01-2018 at 10:36:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • If Ron isn't familiar with the older Ferguson's, I'd bet what he saw on a website was one with the tilting hood and thought it was a Ford. I've seen posts on FB where the writer refers to a photo of a Ferguson as a Ford N.

    John in Mich    Posted 06-01-2018 at 08:52:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tim, you and I both know a Ford owner who has made some SUPER mods to his Ford tractors. Nothing is inpossible if...

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 06-02-2018 at 05:37:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yep, but a V8 conversion is different and practical. I don't understand why he wants his 8N hood to flip up. There's nothing to access by doing that. If it could, the gas tank is attached so it would stay with hood and likely spill fuel all over for one. I can see why with the OHV engines they flipped up or out, but not the flathead. OK, it is his tractor and he can do anything he wants to it, but that just isn't practical let alone cost effective. Unless one has very deep pockets and too much time on their hands, I can think of 1000 reasons to spend the $$$ on my tractor. To each his own I guess.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    mhb@ufe    Posted 06-01-2018 at 06:38:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The gas tank is attached to the hood so in order to make the hood tip forward you would need to make a new support for the gas tank. The tractor is pretty easy to service with the hood in place so it wouldn't be worth the effort to me.

    Mark

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 06-01-2018 at 06:45:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Not practical nor feasible -see my POST above. There is more to change than just the gas tank mounting. IMHO...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    mhb@ufe    Posted 06-01-2018 at 09:30:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The ones I have seen have been on V8 conversions were the fuel tank has been relocated and the dog legs and grill flip up with the hood much like the Ferguson. Many things are possible but not very practical.

    Mark

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