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Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 07-05-2018 at 08:27:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Seek Info - 1956 FORD 660
  • A member contacted me about his 1956 Ford 660 Air Force Moto Tug. I told him I really don't know anything about them other than the what is shown on the photo in Randy Leffingwells' book, "FORD FARM TRACTORS of the 1950's". I've seen a few of these, all Ford 660 Models, painted yellow, and with additional cab, fenders, and other parts added. The only info given is what the caption says. I further explained that it's a given they are indeed 660 Models, but I believe, like the original Ford-Ferguson Moto Tug, they were built by and outside supplier, and probably never at never at the Ford Highland Park Tractor Plant. If so, then outside vendors supplied the extra cab, fenders, and other parts, and not Ford. This is just my theory, but, as usual, show me the data. These are always listed as an "Air Force Moto Tug" but I also have to question then if they were used on military AFB's to move jets around, why the tall cab? The original Moto-Tug had a lower profile than the standard 9N on which it was built on in order to clear fighter plane and bomber wings. The original Ford-Ferguson Moto Tug was built on a 9N frame and engine at the Rouge, with the chassis & engine only, no sheet metal, being shipped down to Columbus, Ohio to a dealer who had the facility to set up an assembly line. The special armor and all other parts were supplied by outside vendors then also shipped there where they were assembled as complete Tug units. Tugs were built under contact to the US Military and many used on carriers, airports, and bases to move planes around with. The first finished model left the line in April, 1943. If you want to read the entire story, click on the LINK below. My venture continues though for an info on the 1956 660 Tugs.

    FROM THE LEFFINGWELL BOOK:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    KCM    Posted 07-10-2018 at 23:30:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I remember seeing that photo many years ago, but since then believe the information in the caption is suspect. Even though the badge on tractor in the photo looks to say 600 or 800, all the information I have come across indicates that the first tug after the 2N BNO was the model 621-62 built in 1962 and ordered through the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Logic tells me the tractor would not be a 660 since the tug would have no use for a 3-point hitch/hydraulics or a PTO just to pull around aircraft or carts. Every one I've seen so far also have a 4-speed transmission, even into the 1970's, and the 621-62 used a torque convertor instead of a traditional clutch (hence the oil cooler in the photo). Since the 600 and 601 look identical from distance, they would be hard to distinguish from that photo.

    The reason I have taken an interest in tugs is that I own a model 621-62. I am positive it was used on a military base as there is one within 100 miles of where I purchased the tractor and there are labels in the tractor indicating use by the USAF on an airstrip. The brass tag says it was a wheeled tractor used for 'IND. GED (Ground Equipment Depot) TOWING". I suspect it didn't tow many planes but was used to move around ground support equipment for planes. It was originally equipped with pintle hitch from what I discovered.

    The N-News Spring issue actually has an article on a restored 621-62.

    Steve N Mi    Posted 07-07-2018 at 19:17:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • At Kincheloe AFB we used these Ford Tractors for moving Ground Power Units all around the hangers and flight line.

    Doug    Posted 07-05-2018 at 09:34:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • what kind of info are you looking for? i have one of these buggers. fun as heck to drive around and get looks. i do have the parts book and manual.
    about to get ready and split it in half to change the freeze plug on the back of the block behind the trans.

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 07-05-2018 at 13:50:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • You don't have to split the tractor to get that plug in.there's enough room in between the block and bell housing to sneak it in. Unless there's something on the tug I'm unaware off but on standard 600/800 it's done all the time. Unless you took it to a dealer than it's a big deal with split involved and many buck$$$

    Doug    Posted 07-05-2018 at 14:28:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • if i don't have too that would be great, the freeze plug is below the top of the trans so i just figured it would be difficult to set it properly.

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 07-05-2018 at 15:55:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • No not at all bad to do even though the bell housing rim sits above. I always keep an extra plug on hand in case I screw up.bang a screwdriver in the plus and pop it out. Clean and line up the new plug and with shallow socket and small extension use a hammer and tap it in
    Beats having to split the tractor any day

    JMOR    Posted 07-05-2018 at 16:12:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I have seen those rubber plugs that slide in and expand by tightening a nut on those engines and while everybody I know bad mouths them, I would try one myself before a split.

    Doug    Posted 07-05-2018 at 16:31:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • on one hand i am happy to not have to plait it on the other i wanted to see how the torque converter worked with the clutch. one big thing i didnt want to touch was the transmission cooling lines. they have some very intricate bends in them and i am pretty sure i can not get new ones if i where to have rounded a flare nut of broke a line.

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 07-05-2018 at 13:46:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • You don't have to split the tractor to get that plug in.there's enough room in between the block and bell housing to sneak it in. Unless there's something on the tug I'm unaware off but on

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 07-05-2018 at 11:42:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I need any and all info on them. Where built, by whom. Only the '56 600? Can you scan the manuals and post in MANUALS? If not I can help. Are the manuals specific to these or jus stnd 660 ones?

    Tim Daley(MI)

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