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cinmort01@rochester.rr.com    Posted 08-03-2018 at 13:30:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Ethanol Free Gas
  • last week a station that I normally buy from for my 8N, stopped carrying ethanol free. I didn't know how many stations around here still carry it. I found a site called www.pure-gas.org goes state by state and shows a list of cities and locations that is updated by the users. I only use it in my small engine tools and tractors. Hope this information helps.

    Frank

    Gaspump    Posted 08-04-2018 at 18:12:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • SteveVa is dead on with his ethanol remarks. Anyone that does not concur either is on the corn in our gas team, the government or simply has their head stuck in the sand. So far as being a scam even Al Gore has agreed. Many stations here in FL have non ethanol pumps, usually mid grade too. AV gas or Marine gas is ethanol free too. Having been in engineering for one of the largest boat and yacht builders, affiliated with SNAME and MMA I have seen and studied some tragic cases of fires on the water some with serious injurie and even a case where an entire family was lost. In cases studied, there was some sort of a failure, correct safety precautions were taken but leaking or over fueling caused by ethanol damaged parts was the onset of the disasters.

    lonestarjeff    Posted 08-04-2018 at 13:08:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I've never seen a station around here that offered anything ethanol-free, but if you know a small aircraft pilot they can get you some avgas. I've been using it for all my 2-cycle tools for a few years now. The only issue I've ever had is one of my weedeaters will foul a plug once a season.

    I also keep it(avgas)in my long-term shelf tools(pumps, generators), they get fired up maybe twice a year.

    steveVa    Posted 08-04-2018 at 12:37:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I would use ethanol free gas in all small engines and boat motors if I could get it.
    As it is now I use seafoam and or Stabil in everything except the automobiles. Ethanol will gum up your carbs on generators, weed wackers, chain saws, chipper shreaders, boat motors, etc. Ethanol will also destroy gas lines and diaphrams in chain saws and weed wackers and boat motors. 95% of all dead chain saws comes from ethanol. Same goes for weed wackers. I have replaced the carb on my chipper shreader twice because it was clogged with jello like crud that also ate thru the carb bowl.
    I HATE ETHANOL. It is the biggest scam ever run on this country.

    dave#1    Posted 08-05-2018 at 14:11:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • No pie jokes here !
    Agree with Steve
    I use Ethanol in most my stuff until the end of the season (Snowmobile,boat,mowing tractors) then I run a tank full or 2 of non Ethanol gas through the tank and pickle the gas with Stable for the off season, If I can I shut off the gas and run the carbs dry (Not the fuel injected snowmobiles)

    steveVa    Posted 08-06-2018 at 08:21:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I like my pies ethanol free as well.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 08-07-2018 at 08:54:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Depends on the pie - vanilla extract is 35%-40% ethanol and adding rum to a chocolate pie is definitely kicking it up a notch ;-) ;-)

    TOH

    Farmer Dan    Posted 08-04-2018 at 10:25:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Ethanol Free Gas
  • This has all the makings of another "Oil Argument".
    Fact is if you take the gas cap off the alcohol will evaporate in a day or two..
    Now you have alcohol free gas.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-04-2018 at 13:49:17 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HAHAHA! Yeo, and I like my alcohol in a brown bottle anyway...

    TPD

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-03-2018 at 21:04:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The debate goes on about ethanol blended gasoline. I just fired up my 8N after setting for a year! The gas looked like a urine specimen but was no problem. The gas was an ethanol bend put in last June. Why do you think you need ethanol free gas? I was getting gas at the local Mobil diesel stop yesterday and spotted a pump that said ethanol-free gas. It was 89 Octane, and exactly $1 more per gallon than the standard 87 10% blend. Nope, not needed, not for me, sorry. Your tractor - your $$$. Back in the 30's, 40's, 50's, and 60's they sold premium gas as, ready, ETHYL! Guess what it was? FWIW, I don't believe in any 'stabilizer' products either, sorry Bruce. How do you gage if it is dong anything?

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Frank (WNY)    Posted 08-04-2018 at 08:06:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I just wanted to convey some information for anyone that prefers ethanol free. I'm sure that soon you won't be able to find it anymore, so it's kind of a moot point.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 08-05-2018 at 07:15:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Steve can probably correct me but it is my understanding the gasoline in the pipe line is unadulterated. Blending is now done at the distribution head.

    In Iowa both the Casey's chain and HyVee Food Stores, with filling stations, sell non-ethanol regular gasoline and have made a verbal commitment to continue. There are also a few others but these two you can count on.

    Gaspump    Posted 08-05-2018 at 12:43:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Ethanol must be added at the distribution point as it cannot be in the fuel prior to shipping by pipeline. It corrodes and elsewise damages the pipes and equipment. Ethanol must be transported separately usually by tank car or truck further adding to the already outrageous expense of having corn in your gas.

    SelectOSpeed    Posted 08-04-2018 at 05:03:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tetraethyl Lead nicknamed "Ethyl". Used as a antiknock compound. No relation to Ethanol at all. Another Charles Kettering invention. SoS.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-04-2018 at 07:36:50 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • S-O-S:
    I'm not disputing you, but I did a quick looksee first and found this...

    " What is the difference between ethyl alcohol and ethanol? "


    Ethyl alcohol and ethanol are two terms used to name the same chemical compound. The only difference between ethyl alcohol and ethanol is that ethyl alcohol is the common name given for the compound C2H5OH whereas ethanol is the IUPAC name given for the ethyl alcohol.

    Ironic how it went on to say that ETHYL (premium gas) was introduced in the 20's because there was evidence to support that the world's petroleum resources would dry up by the 1940's.


    TPD

    SelectOSpeed    Posted 08-04-2018 at 09:33:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • You're right about one thing. The 1920s. SoS.

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 08-04-2018 at 00:28:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • When I fill the gas cans, the last one might sit a couple of months before it gets dumped in a tank. Never used stabilizers except in the generator. That one doesn't use much fuel unless it runs for several hours. So I was worried about the fuel going sour, and started putting Stabil in that tank. Don't know if I would have had any problem without it, but when I need the generator...

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 08-03-2018 at 16:11:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Just add a fuel stabilizer to it or use it in 30 days; all will be fine. I use Star Tron fuel stabilizer. Been using ethanol gas in 4 8N's, a 740, 1929 Ford and a 1950 MG for years. Only problem I've ever had is the ethanol ate the cork float in the Model A.

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 08-03-2018 at 14:02:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • It's been more than 10 years since I've noticed any problem with ethanol E10 blended fuel. It seemed to take a couple years to get the additives right, but once they did, any problems I was having went away, and have not come back. I do run my tractors and lawnmower most of the year. There may be a period in the coldest months when everything sits for a few weeks, but generally everything gets run about once a month. If I am working on something, and the carb is going to sit a few weeks or more, I make sure to completely drain it, dry it out, and wrap in plastic. That seems to keep it from growing strange colored deposits of goo I've seen in the past. Regular E10 pump gas works just fine for me in all the tractors, chainsaws, lawnmower, and generator.
    KL

    Frank (WNY)    Posted 08-03-2018 at 13:32:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Oops! I got the email and name switched.

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