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Scott McKinnon NC    Posted 09-23-2018 at 17:33:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Due to historic torrential rain and flooding caused recently by Hurricane Florence in North Carolina, my beautifully restored 1953 8N has been sitting completely under water for several days. Roads are still impassable but I saw a heartbreaking video taken by a neighbor in a small boat. My tractor is nothing compared to the hardships just starting for the thousands of residents temporarily living in school gyms and businesses who have lost everything. It will probably be five or more days before I can get to my tractor.
    If anyone has any suggestions, precautions or steps to take to bring my 8N I welcome your input. back to life.

    Rustyal    Posted 09-25-2018 at 18:38:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Sorry to hear about your tractor. Good luck with your recovery from the floods.

    SelectOSpeed    Posted 09-24-2018 at 04:56:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Scott I feel your pain. I went through the same with hurricane Floyd back in 99. All I can add to the good advice already given, is when you start it the first time run it until its Hot and continue running for several hours. You want to get ALL the moisture out of engine, transmission, hydraulics, and differential. Restrict the air intake to the radiator to keep the coolant just under boiling. Load the lift with a heavy implement and keep it raised to generate heat in the hydraulics. Again it needs to run and run Hot for several hours. SoS, Washington NC

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 09-23-2018 at 21:19:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Oh boy. Water is not a problem. Oxygen is. Oxygen in water is the catalyst for rust.
    When you get to the machine, pop the plugs, drain the oil out of everything. Fill the cylinders with diesel and turn it over by hand. Fill it again and let it set for a short time draining out the oil and hydraulics gunk.
    Your electrical system is flooded out. That might be a slight pain to resurrect.
    If you have a hand crank, this is easy enough. No hand crank? Use the fan belt.
    After all the oil is drained, fill it up with diesel and let it set until you can really get to it. 5 gallons of oil is the normal hyd oil fill, give it 8 gallons.
    The engine needs about 3 or 4 gallons to submerge everything.

    John in Mich    Posted 09-23-2018 at 19:55:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Time is important. You can't leave it set while worrying about the house damage. If you have major home damage, that is your priority. Look for a replacement tractor.
    When I burned my Jubilee, the insturance adjuster recorded it as my lawn mower and I was given $5000 for it and kept it. It is still in my barn as a worker.
    I'm inclined to think that with a properly planned and careful process of draining all fluids including gas tank, transmission, differential, hydraulics, crankcase and oil filter, and the radiator, pull the spark plugs, pull the battery, distributor, and coil. Remove the starter and generator. Pull all of the wiring. Pull the muffler, carburator and air intake oil bath intake (remember to drain it). (Did I miss anything?)
    All electrical componants will have to be rebuilt (starter, generator, distributor) or replaced (battery, coil).
    Put fresh oils in all drained areas. Put some oil or Marvel Mystery Oil in all of the cylinders, but leave the spark plugs OUT. Install the starter and associated wire to connect the (a) battery. Tap the (new/rebuilt) starter through each cylinder stroke to be sure there is no hydraulic lock. If it rolls freely, hold the starter button until you see some pressure on the oil pressure gage.
    If all appears and sounds good, put it back together. My bet is it will be fine.
    I'm sure others will chime in with points to consider.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-23-2018 at 18:41:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The heed Scott, it is not completely lost. When all is over you might want to check with your homeowners insurance as it may be covered as a loss. They'd rather cut you a check than try and replace something like a vintage tractor. You can take the check and invest in repairing the 8N then. 1953 would be an NAA Model BTW. Does it have an OHV engine? Don't try to start it! It will need to be torn down and gone thru completely like a restoration job. Prayers are with all you NC residents...

    Tim Daley(MI)

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