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chris eby    Posted 12-20-2018 at 18:36:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I have a 2n serial #9n106575 (1943).i need a three spoke covered steering wheel. can you guys tell me the nearest to original wheel to buy. I like correct parts. and I am confused over all the wheels offered for sale?

    Jim.UT    Posted 12-24-2018 at 09:42:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I parted out several 9N and 2N tractors and never saw one with covered spokes, despite what the period literature shows. Maybe it's a case of there being more than one supplier of steering wheels back then (conjecture, not statement of fact). In any event, I would see no reason to question the originality of a steel spoke steering wheel.

    Dn-N-Tn    Posted 12-22-2018 at 12:31:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The steering wheel that has the three spokes covered looks like a Massey Ferguson steering wheel to me----I had one on my 1941 9N for a while, so, I know they will fit.

    Den N Ms    Posted 12-22-2018 at 02:47:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Chris,My 43 sn#9N113429,Has the original steering wheel(soybeen)3 open steel spoke wheel.Not the covered spoke steering wheel.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-22-2018 at 08:44:41 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HiYa Den-
    First, the AMMETER was always mounted on the LH Dash Panel. Are you thinking of some other part like the ignition key switch or the start push button? Secondly, the scan I posted is not of any wartime 2N. There was never a specific wartime 2N only MPC published. My scan is from the 9N/2N Service Manual for Owners & Mechanics. There is a Price List from July, 1943 in our Manuals forum which lists mostly those specific 2N wartime parts. When the US War Board shut down all US manufacturing in early 1942 ( Ford shut down February 10, 1942 ) it included printed material as well that's why there are no Ford Tractor MPC's for '43, '44', and '45. The exception is for the '43 Ford-Ferguson Moto-Tug. The Moto-Tug MPC shows the 9N-3600-B steering wheel. The John Smith Tractor HISTORY/ID info, says in 1941, Ford changed the steering wheel to the 3-Spoke, hard plastic type as shown. The 1941 MPC lists the 9N-3600-B unit using the 351103-S22 5/8-18 Acorn Nut. Early 1942 records show some 9N models were produced before the shutdown in February. Many adhere to the belief that every Ford 2N tractor was built as a steel-wheel/magneto wartime model when in fact the 2N Warhorse models were not produced until late October, 1942. It was actually Roger Kyes, who was hired away from the Empire Plow Company to be part of the Ferguson-Sherman team, who suggested to the Ford engineers that they design an austerity version of the tractor without electric starting motor and other simple modifications. In January, 1943, Ferguson went to Washington and met with President Roosevelt to discuss the wartime restrictions. He ended up convincing the President to allow normal 2N tractor production to resume at Ford and also had sold the President a 9N Tractor with a line of implements.

    Just to be clear, there's no documentation that shows any steering wheel was ever made from soybean polymers. If this new steering wheel in Ď41 was plastic, meaning made entirely of soybean polymers, the MPC would state it as such, like the 1940 MPC with the 9N-400-B plastic seat. The 2N-3600 steering wheel, listed in the 1946 MPC still uses the 5/-18 acorn nut but it is most likely the uncovered 3-Spoke unit. The original Ford 9N-3600-A, 4-Spoke Steering Wheel was made with a hard rubber covering all over.

    FWIW:
    Ford offered an optional soybean pan seat, p/n 9N-3600-B early on from 1939 til 1941 made entirely of the soybean polymer. It was a failure as mice, rats, birds, and other rodents chewed away at the tasty substance. Due to that failed part, it is unlikely they would make other parts out of soybeans, in my opinion. Recent discoveries of a few members with plastic 3-PT Lift Lever knobs has surfaced though so if you can, post some pictures of your steering wheel. I will talk to Jason Grooms and see what he has on his original 2Nís.

    2N-3600 STEERING WHEEL:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-21-2018 at 13:23:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Here's a monkey in the wrench, Chris. This is a page from the 1943 2N Service Manual showing the steering wheel. Others will no doubt chime in here but I have never see this type of steering wheel on a 2N. They have always been the steel spoke type like Carpenter/JUST8Ns sells now.


    1943 FORD 2N SERVICE MANUAL; PAGE 10:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    chris eby    Posted 12-21-2018 at 15:50:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • my tractor has a non-pressurized cooling system. also the old style dog legs and cast radiator support. this is why I question, which steering wheel? I think I should go with the type pictured? but I am always ready for a further education.chris

    Patrick Knight (N.Cal)    Posted 12-20-2018 at 22:54:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • $29 at Just8Ns
    2N3600 Years:1939-47 Steering Wheel (Like Original)Keyed (DOES NOT FIT 8N)

    Bought one there for my 2N a few years ago.


    Patrick (N.Cal)

    1945 Ford 2N
    with 1951 8N motor
    (8N386322)

    Den N Ms    Posted 12-22-2018 at 03:22:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Chris ,If you noticed in the pic that Tim posted that tractor had a amp gauge in the dash so it could be a 41 Used from sn#9N80770-to-#9N88933.
    Then in 42 #9N88934 -to-#9N99046 went back to the 3 open steel spoke wheel.
    I have never seen any covered spoke steering wheels on a War modelN,all had open steel spokes.


    Pic of a 41 9N.

    Den N Ms    Posted 12-22-2018 at 03:48:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Don't know why I can't get pics to post here any more.

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