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Wayne,Az    Posted 04-26-2019 at 12:25:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • BEST WAY TO LEVEL DIRT WITH 8N??
  • I AM IN the AZ deserte on 40+ acres..We had a neighbor come in with his giant trachow and rip out 4-10" mesquite and pile it for us..It lest many big holes for me to fill in..I have a 6' blade,7' landscape rake & a 5 1/2' disc..Have been pulling some,,back bladind some in,,but hard to get level/smooth..Any suggestions really appreciated.. T.I.A. for any help..WAYNE

    Island Mike    Posted 04-28-2019 at 21:53:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Wot Blaster Stumps said. It seems to run more level on an angle. I put some lead weight on the blade as well.
    I have been working on the base for my new cottage on the Island.

    Island Mike

    Lynn Patrick    Posted 04-27-2019 at 16:46:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I also like the box blade w/scarifier teeth, but use it along w/the back blade. I have done it this way for my property & my son's.
    If you play w/the length of the top link when using a box blade you can dig & move dirt or level it.

    steveVa    Posted 04-27-2019 at 10:53:20 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I just keep my 6 foot blade on my 8N to pull gravel on the road and to smoot things out. If I want to move dirt and fill holes and level ground I go to my front end loader every time. The loader has a float feature that makes smoothing things out a breeze. My counter balance for the loader is a tiller that breaks up dirt and makes smoothing out high spots a breeze. The loader and tiller are attached to my Kubota and I love it just as much as the 8N.

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 04-27-2019 at 10:04:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Wow, Grading 40 acres with an 8N would be like sweeping floors with a Q-tip (wrong tool for the job). It can be done but how much time do you have? I have graded a few small areas to improve logging trails in our 12 acres of woods. Any significant cutting or back-filling is a days work for just a short stretch of trail. I've been using a back blade to cut, and 3-point dirt scoop to fill. The dirt scoop will only move about 1/4 yard at a time. As others have said, you need a bulldozer or full size backhoe/loader to do any serious work on 40-plus acres (unless this is a hobby you want to stay busy playing around with for the next 5 or 6 years).

    TheOldHokie    Posted 04-26-2019 at 14:44:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Park the 8N and rent a back hoe. Going rate here is $250/day or $875/week for an open station full size Case 4WD TLB and unless your time is worthless it's well worth the money. You can bring out the 8N once the piles have been moved and the rough grading is done. Downside is once you have a logged a few hours in the seat of that TLB your 8N will have lost a lot of it's appeal.

    TOH

    PS> It will take you about 10 minutes to figure out how to drive a Case TLB and use the loader. The back hoe part is a little trickier so figure 30 minutes to learn and get comfortable with it and make sure you stay out of reach of anything valuable....

    Dean    Posted 04-26-2019 at 13:06:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • From the available information I would suggest a box blade.

    A good 8N ballasted and with good tires should handle a 6' box blade in dry, sandy soil if you do not try to pull too much at a time.

    Should handle a 5' box blade much better.

    You can do it with your back blade but it will take considerably longer.

    That said, if you have 40 acres to level, you should probably hire someone with the proper equipment or rent the proper equipment and do it yourself.

    Dean

    John in Mich    Posted 04-26-2019 at 17:54:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • In 1984 I had to run a trench for a city water supply 400 feet to my new house. I tried a trencher in hard clay. After an hour and going about 2 feet, I inquired about a backhoe. Ouch, $400 for the week-end.
    We had some fun. Each of my kids got to try their hand at the controls. At the time they were 18, 16 and 14. We spent the best part of Saturday and Sunday but got it done.
    I saw the contractor that set my septic tanks and layed the field. I asked him how much he would have charged and how long would it take. Believe it or not he said, $400 and about 4 hours.
    But, we had fun.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 04-26-2019 at 18:25:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I have rented one like this multiple times. It took me about half an hour of practice to get comfortable/competent with the hoe controls. This picture was my third "adventure" using it to dig the footers for my shop. I am definitely not the fastest or straightest hoe operator in the county but it was "fun" and the concrete crew didn't make fun of my raggedy digging. Helps that the ground is all crumbly shale and you can't cut a straight wall. Definitely wouldn't want to do it for a living...

    TOH


    Wayne,Az    Posted 04-27-2019 at 11:04:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • WOW!! I sure forgot to put in the part that this was ONLY about 8 acres..I have filled/smoothed about 1/2 of that a few hours//mornings at a time with just the back blade..But driving over those spots the way the blade raises/lowers with the up/down of the tractor is what I am trying to figure out?? Thanks for all sugestions,,just want to do with my own small implements. Wayne

    Jmor    Posted 04-29-2019 at 07:55:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • If you ever use a land plane for leveling/smoothing, you will never go back and might even become a salesman for them!

    JMOR    Posted 04-29-2019 at 17:40:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • land plane
  • land plane

    TheOldHokie    Posted 04-27-2019 at 12:02:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I assume you have the 3pt lift in position control but still not much you can do about the back blade. With no down pressure other than gravity they want to float up and over the high spots. Same for the rake which I use for rock and root removal more than grading. You can add some ballast but I have never found it real effective.

    For rough grading and moving material I like to cut and push with a loader bucket and then use it to back drag the surface for leveling and compacting. If you persevere with what you have I am sure you will get it done. Personally I no longer find much enjoyment in that sort of time intensive endeavor and opt for spending a little cash to get something faster and easier.

    TOH

    BlasterStumps    Posted 04-27-2019 at 11:26:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I use my back blade on occasion but I will angle it as much as possible. I have the blade offset about 16" or so also. When I swing the blade to angle it, I keep the shorter end of the blade up behind the tractor. Something like a road grader will do at times. Still not the best way to level anything. If there was a crazy wheel mounted with a long arm behind the blade, it might do better. might not dig in or skip quite so easy when the tractor hits a bump or depression. When I get the surface close to what I want then I will swing my blade completely around so it is dragging backwards as the tractor moves forward. I can angle it when doing this also. works a little bit anyway.

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