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dexterdraco    Posted 04-28-2019 at 19:46:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • What can you guys tell me about an 801 ford tractor? Are they any good? HP?

    NAA36663    Posted 04-30-2019 at 08:32:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Here's my take on the Select-O-Speed without power steering:

    Background:
    I bought a Jubilee about 20 yrs ago, now scheduled for 'Trailer Queen' status.
    Wanted live PTO to pull a finish mower so I bought an 860. Then wanted power steering, so I bought an 861. Reverse too fast on the 860 and 861 for rear snowblower so I bought an 871 with PS, 2 reverse speeds fast and faster - also not for rear snowblowers.
    I sold the 860 and am fixing up the 861 to sell. In live PTO mode, the clutch pedal is a bit too high for my comfort.
    I plan on keeping the 871 because it works great and wouldn't bring enough money anyway.

    When I bought my 871 I discovered no serial number on the tractor. Folks on the board told me the original select-o-speed transmissions available starting in 1959 were so unreliable the factory set up full scale replacements on dealer premises.
    Sometimes they got so busy they forgot to stamp the old serial number on the new transmission. The replacement transmissions are reported to be much better. I wasn't aware of that at the time, so I lucked out. Tractors beyond the early 871/881 all have the better transmission.

    I was told the best way you can tell which transmission is by driving the tractor downhill in one of the speeds that has a red diagonal hatch marks (about half of the 10 forward speeds) in the background of the display. If the tractor free-wheels down hill, you have the early transmission to avoid. If the engine/transmission keeps the tractor from free wheeling, you have a good one. Mine is the latter and I have had no problems so far.

    You won't be able to tell before you bid, but if you decide to get the tractor, I would strongly recommend taking any transmission issue to a mechanic with experience with that transmission, which ever version it has.

    Sorry for the long post, but hope it helps.
    Mike M.

    dexterdraco    Posted 04-30-2019 at 09:53:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • don't ever be sorry about a long post.
    I really appreciate you time.
    Thank you

    Ultradog MN    Posted 04-29-2019 at 04:36:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Here are a few facts that relate to Ford tractor transmissions of that era.
    If you look through the I&T FO-20 manual which covers 1955-1964 models
    the procedure for adjusting and overhauling a 4 speed transmission, including a single clutch, is about 6 pages long.
    Likewise, the procedure for a 5 speed with dual clutch is just over 7 pages long.
    The procedure for adjusting and overhauling a Select O Speed of that era is Thirty Five pages pages long.
    Those are facts.
    Here are a few of my opinions/thoughts on Select O Speeds:
    I have one in a 1966 3 cylinder Ford 4000.
    It worked perfectly and had no issues.
    But for numerous reasons, I hated the transmission and will never own another one.
    Recently, I decided to replace it with an 8 speed. I have it out and have advertised it on 4 tractor forums - including this one, 3 places on Facebook and about 5 different cities on Craigslist.
    Not ONE inquiry after 3 weeks.
    Just yesterday I gave it to my best friend for free. I just want it gone and don't want another one.

    dexterdraco    Posted 04-30-2019 at 06:11:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • thank you

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 04-28-2019 at 22:00:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • That is a SelectoSpeed transmission which came out in 1959. I personally know nothing about those.

    From the picture the tractor looks to be a 861 but don't bet any money on that. Tractor should be a 1959 or 1960.

    Good Luck,

    Jack

    Michford    Posted 04-28-2019 at 19:59:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The 801 series are about twice the horsepower of an 8N in a tractor that is slightly larger than an 8N. The 801 series could be had with power steering as a factor option. The most common models of 801 series are the 841 which is a four speed and could also be available with a Sherman combo trans giving you 12 total speeds. Not all 841 will have power steering or a Sherman combo. The other common models of 801 series are 851 and 861 which are five speeds. The 861 has live pto. Power steering was also an option with an 851 and 861. The 801 series are thirstier than the 800 series as the 801 has a larger carburetor.

    dexterdraco    Posted 04-28-2019 at 20:20:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • https://www.rbauction.com/1960-ford-801-antique-tractor?invId=10776400&id=ci&auction=elbow-sk-2019503

    dexterdraco    Posted 04-28-2019 at 20:14:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • thank you

    Michford    Posted 04-28-2019 at 21:56:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The tractor in the auction is a Selectospeed transmission and will be either an 871 or 881 model. Since the tractor is in an auction, odds are you wont be able to drive it and evaluate that the transmission works in all gears. Unless you can get it cheap, you may want to shy away from that one if you are not familiar with the Selectospeed.

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