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Ken Carlsen    Posted 09-26-2019 at 10:22:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I don't know if it's best to post here or in the Ads forum, but I am looking for feedback on purchasing 8N parts. The guy I bought the tractor from recommended N-Complete, but that was almost 10 years ago and seems like they are out of business now. The top sites I find now are Just 8Ns, Fix That Ford, Yesterday's Tractor, and Steiner Tractor Parts. Does anyone have thoughts on these four sellers or any other suggestions for parts?

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 09-27-2019 at 07:06:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • That is Grand Valley!

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 09-27-2019 at 07:05:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I've had very good service from Grand View Tractors. Not the largest I'm sure but good service.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-26-2019 at 16:32:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • If you’re looking for a place with all USA made parts, it doesn’t exist pal. Even the only licensed by FORD OEM manufacturer has some Cheena built parts but many are the made with the original Ford tooling he leases or owns. Just8Ns supplies most all Carpenter stuff too as original owner Don Barkley was Carpenter’s Tractor QC Man when he first started. Don’s son Derek owns and runs the business now. N-Complete is out of business now since last year or so, and he had the place up for sale at one time recently, but they were just a supplier and rebuilder as are every other supplier today. They all buy the same Cheena made and TISCO made parts and sell at a 5%-25% percentage markup. STEINERS use to make some original replicas of manifolds and things cast until the EPA shut them down but they sell all the Cheena and TISCO stuff as well plus the Carpenter stuff marked up. One huge myth is Yesterday’s Tractor is a parts supplier. They do but don’t make anything; they only sell from a bunch of suppliers who sponsor their sites. They are often prone to sending the wrong part, customer’s fault but mostly their fault and is the same Cheena made stuff as the rest. Now, NAPA sells good USA made Ford tractor distributor parts and more all USA made but some Mexico and Canada as well. CNH sells USA made points too for FORD tractors and probably more. Most parts are best purchased at Just8Ns or Carpenter but there are a few exceptions like NAPA, CNH, and SUMMIT RACING. One final important point to consider is that all FORD OEM components were designed to be rebuilt over and over. Carbs, distributors, water pumps, generators, starters, and more are best to be rebuilt than to buy a new cheap Chinese aftermarket junker. It depends on what you want to choose a supplier so do your homework.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Ultradog MN    Posted 09-27-2019 at 04:36:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • "One huge myth is Yesterday’s Tractor is a parts supplier. They do but don’t make anything; they only sell from a bunch of suppliers who sponsor their sites. They are often prone to sending the wrong part, customer’s fault but mostly their fault and is the same Cheena made stuff as the rest."

    One wonders why you would frequent that site if you have such a low opinion of them.


    "they only sell from a bunch of suppliers who sponsor their sites."

    And this my friend, is patently false as you well know.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-29-2019 at 07:34:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Dogman Jerry-

    No low opinion, just a realist and stating the facts. YT tractor parts are from suppliers, not YT. Now it’s your choice who to buy from, but when I guy asks me I won’t BS him. We all want the best quality part available, but when a newbie wants to know, I will tell him the facts and let him decide. There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise and a guy trying to make a buck, but when I see what I deem as a rip-off when a seller is marking up his DC supplied parts by 20%, I’m going to say something. The whole point of these tractor boards is to help people, mostly newbies, with issues related to their ‘new’ tractor. The folks who run YT, lil’ Kimmy Pratt, doesn’t think so. Her objective is to manipulate their site as to the ONLY one that matters. She won’t allow the ‘NTC’ name or LINK to be mentioned in a post; it’s banned like a dirty word. What is she afraid of? It’s not a contest but she thinks it is. She wants only allegiance to YT and that ain’t right. Helping newbies with tractor issues should be priority #1 and if YT doesn’t have the right answer, then one should be allowed to direct you the NTC and get the right answer. You are one of the few exceptions as you too post on both boards, but many have been brainwashed, old and new members, into Kimmie’s way of thinking and won’t even go to the NTC site or give them a gander. So when a guy asks me where to get a starter motor for his 8N, I’m going to tell him my opinions. I cringe when I see a guy post, “…well, I bought a new starter from YT and now it doesn’t run…”. They just don’t know so I try and steer them right. Like I said, you can buy from whomever you want to, I just state the facts and offer better alternatives.

    Respectfully,
    Tim Daley(MI)

    Ultradog MN    Posted 09-29-2019 at 10:58:46 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • You wrote: "they only sell from a bunch of suppliers who sponsor their site."

    This is completely false. There are no sponsors at YT. None!

    TOH said it best below:

    "
    With the exception of some specialty Ford licensed parts made by Dennis Carpenter these places are all selling parts from the same set of distributors. A&I, Tisco, Sparex, and Atlantic are the primary wholesale distributors. And even DC is selling a lot of items from those same distributors."

    I have nothing against DC or the Barcleys, or Red Rock, Stieners, ebay, amazon or any other supplier. I hope they sell a lot of parts and prosper.

    YT hosts the largest old tractor site on the entire internet. There are over 6 million posts stored there for the largest repository of old tractor knowledge in the english speaking world.
    That repository includes info not only on all the old brands of tractors but also combines and harvesters, backhoes, crawlers, tractor pulling, stationary engines and implements.
    That site is funded entirely by the sale of parts.
    I support YT's parts department because I like the camaraderie there and and I hope to expand and maintain that repository of knowledge.
    YT does not allow posts with links to sites they consider "the competion". This includes both parts sites and other forums. It has been that way for many years and I don't think they single out NTC in that regard. Links to Mytractorforum, Tractorforum, Tractorbynet and Newagtalk are also banned there.
    This seems to be a prudent buisness practice IMO.
    You are a regular member of that site with several Thousand posts there - to your credit.
    It is Kim's house and each and every time you post you agree to abide by her guidelines.

    It does seem a bit odd to me that you would enjoy and participate there whilst harboring such ill will towards them. You have made numerous posts here of your low opinion of their practices - both business and community standards wise and have even stated blatant falsehoods about them. (See above)
    I think it is fair to recommend your favorite parts seller.
    I don't think it is fair to dennigrate another parts supplier because of a personal animosity towards them - especially in a way that could get you banned if you did it there.
    As you have said yourself (paraphrased) "Its all about the collection and dissemination of knowledge about these old tractors"
    If you truely hate that place maybe you'd be happier to ignore it for a while.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-27-2019 at 06:47:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • What is false? I purchased an item years ago from YT, before I knew better, before I found Carpenter and Just8N's, and got the wrong part, their fault. The supplier would not rectify the problem unless I paid for the return shipping and the shipping for the correct part. I'm not making this stuff up dog. One only needs to read the daily posts to see a member with an issue about a part they purchased from YT. Again, YT does not make parts -only sells from suppliers. They don't have a warehouse full of parts. A guy orders a part and they see who has it stock and the supplier takes it from there and ships it to the customer.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Ken Carlsen    Posted 09-26-2019 at 20:04:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Great information, thanks! So all the major parts I have so far are in good working order. This was more for all the small seals, gaskets, shims, and a few cosmetic things. I'll keep this in mind if need to rebuild something major. So far, Just 8Ns seems to have the best selection of the parts I need, as well as the best or competitive pricing and free shipping. Good to know they're selling the same stuff as everyone else.

    The only item I am having difficulty finding are the metal axle bearing preload shims. I find all the paper ones, but only Yesterday's Tractor seems to have the metal ones and they want 4x the price for shipping. Thoughts?

    R Geiger    Posted 09-26-2019 at 20:40:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • When making an order from any of thes suppliers, I try to order as much as I can to help with the shipping costs. If you need it bad enough, shipping is just part of the cost of the part. I have had good service from all of the stated suppliers

    TheOldHokie    Posted 09-26-2019 at 13:44:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • With the exception of some specialty Ford licensed parts made by Dennis Carpenter these places are all selling parts from the same set of distributors. A&I, Tisco, Sparex, and Atlantic are the primary wholesale distributors. And even DC is selling a lot of items from those same distributors.

    As has been advised by others do some comparison shopping and let your wallet be your guide.

    TOH

    McNugget    Posted 09-26-2019 at 12:53:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • DEnnis Carpenter Ford Restoration has some details items.

    Ozlander    Posted 09-26-2019 at 10:39:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Once you have the part number, Google it and you'll see the prices at different stores. Then pick a place and check the shipping cost to obtain the best price.
    Takes a little work, but you'll save dollars.
    I have not found a bad place to buy from.

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 09-26-2019 at 15:35:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • " I have not found a bad place to buy from. "

    I have.

    TSC.

    Great place for chicken feed and shirts. Never tractor parts.

    Ozlander    Posted 09-29-2019 at 11:44:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Why do you say that?
    TSC sells parts made by the same company's that other suppliers sell.

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