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Patricia    Posted 10-11-2019 at 10:58:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Nolde
  • Hi y'all! I purchased a '50 8N and it came with an interesting trailer hitch. Can anyone tell me anything about this hitch? Should it be safe to pull a small trailer on it?

    Thanks!
    Trish
    8N293566
    NAA91522

    PatrickB    Posted 10-12-2019 at 10:46:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • If I were you I would go to the swinging drawbar kit at 'Just 8ns' or elsewhere. You can not only eliminate the OEM drawbar and its slip in piece but also the check chain connection brackets and and that other home made thing above the PTO.

    PatrickB    Posted 10-12-2019 at 12:22:25 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • That should have said: OEM drawbar 'bracket'

    Don't want to get scolded by the correction police again...

    Farmer Dan    Posted 10-12-2019 at 07:29:25 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • I had one like that

    You need a swinging drawbar like this

    Patricia    Posted 10-14-2019 at 08:32:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • Wow! That's an ugly hole! I consider myself duly warned!

    Thanks!
    Trish

    TheOldHokie    Posted 10-12-2019 at 10:20:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • It is not the same as what you had on that 9N where the pull point was the bolts on the back of the PTO casting. She has an 8N with OEM under axle drawbar clevis which uses the 4 factory under axle drawbar studs as the pull point.

    TOH

    Patricia    Posted 10-14-2019 at 08:34:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • HI TOH,
    Does that make what I have more stable? I feel like I'm getting mixed messages.

    Trish

    TheOldHokie    Posted 10-14-2019 at 09:45:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • Doubtful you will ever get a consistent response to any question here. Everybody has an opinion.

    It's clear your drawbar setup is using the OEM under axle clevis designed for this type of pulling and you are not going to pull a hole in the PTO housing as shown in Dan's picture. He was pulling from th ehousing bolts and that area is not structurally strong enough to handle the loads.

    The under axle clevis was intended for this type of pulling and was used with a "swinging" drawabar that had outboard support using the 11 hole 3pt lift drawbar. You have a shop made drawbar that does not appear to have any outboard support. It is rather short and in my opinion should work fine as long as you keep the tongue weight relatively low. I can't tell if it swings side to side or not but if it does and there is no way to lock it solid you may have some control issues.

    Which brings us to the aftermarket SDA6 drawbar kits (see picture) which are an improvement over the OEM setup. They replace the OEM under axle clevis and have an outboard support that bolts onto the PTO housing and allows heavier tongue weights. They also have a pin arrangement on that support that limits the swing of the drawbar. They run about $120 and would be an improvement over what you have. You should check to make sure you can remove all of the stuff you currently have - looks like something may be welded to the PTO bearing support.

    TOH

    TheOldHokie    Posted 10-11-2019 at 18:16:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The drawbar is home brew and uses the OEM drawbar bracket. It will work fine as long as you limit the tongue weight to say 100# or so.

    You can purchase the sda06 aftermarket drawbar kit for the tractor which has a support for the drawbar and is better suited for a larger tongue weight.

    TOH

    Patricia    Posted 10-14-2019 at 08:36:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • This is super helpful. Thank you so much, TOH!

    Trish

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 10-11-2019 at 13:32:01 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • You have the “Ho-Made Model” – By Farmerization Inc. The OEM 8N-802 clevis bracket, which came with each new 8N tractor (drawbar NOT included) is there but the drawbar itself was made in the barn. If yours is solidly welded on, and it looks like it is, that ain’t good. You want a little play/backlash on the drawbar. The 8N-802 clevis was fitted with the Dearborn Swinging Drawbar, an optional dealer accessory. You needed the OEM 9N-5182 11-Hole Drawbar, also included with a new tractor, as well to use it –see pix. In 1954, the 600 and beyond used a revamped clevis and drawbar which was a much better design. Why? Because you could leave it mounted for most applications. With the prior set up, if you wanted to mount a 3-PT plow or disc, you had to yank the drawbar set up off. Today the industry uses the later design and sold as aftermarket complete units or individual pieces.

    OEM FORD TRACTOR 8N-802 CLEVIS BRACKET, DEARBORN SWINGING DRAWBAR, 9N-5182 DRAWBAR, & STAY BARS:





    OEM FORD CLEVIS & DRAWBAR ASSEMBLY, MADE AFTER 1954:

    FORD AFTERMARKET DRAWBAR AND CLEVIS ASSEMBLY AS SOLD TODAY:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Patricia    Posted 10-14-2019 at 08:37:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Nolde
  • This is great information and very helpful! Thank so much for the images!

    Trish

    Patricia    Posted 10-11-2019 at 11:01:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 8N mystery hitch
  • Sorry for not titling the post above!

    Here's a picture of the underside of this hitch.


    Thanks!

    Patricia    Posted 10-11-2019 at 11:00:01 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 8N hitch
  • Sorry for not titling that post above!

    Here's a picture of the underside.

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 10-11-2019 at 15:50:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 8N hitch
  • The part bolted to the tractor with the push and turn pin is the original 8N part. The part swinging on the pin is the Ho-Made thing Tim mentioned. It looks like that hitch can flop around some on the pin. Seems like a longer bar would be better. It would allow tighter turns before whatever you are towing hits the tires. The photos provided show some of the aftermarket setups that are available. Most of those are going to be better designed and work better than what you have.

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