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JR in AR    Posted 12-29-2019 at 23:21:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Jubilee
  • It has been a while since I have posted anything, but I have a new topic to research. I have been had a 2-N that I have had for about 17 years and have done a lot of work with it. Today I was offered a gift of a Jubilee. It does come with some issues. It ran when the owner acquired it, but it was smoking. He said it would need an engine rebuild. It is also going to need new rubber on all four wheels, and has the remnants of a blue paint job. It still looks like it is all complete. The one exception is that the original hood was damaged at some point and was traded for the hood from a 600. The present owner is a Minneapolis Moline guy, and has restored four of them plus a couple of John Deere Tractors, so I trust his judgement there.

    I am trying to figure out right now if it will have sleeves to replace (what appears to be the case) or if I am looking at having a bore job done. My dad who is 84 did several engine rebuilds, but they were all before I was born. All are still running though, and I am 43 so he knew what he was doing. This is a new experience for me.

    I have wanted a Jube for a while and am excited about the added horsepower. I am just not real sure what I am getting into. I will post pictures when I get it home.

    John in Mich    Posted 12-30-2019 at 16:41:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Everyone has a personal view and procedure for a tractor that has not run in "awhile". Awhile can be anything from a few months to a several or many years.
    My procedure is drain engine oil and install fresh then pull the spark plugs and put some Marvel Mystery Oil (MMO) in each cylinder. Then I try to roll it over by hand. A starter hitting a ring gear of a siezed engine can break something.
    Once I know the engine is not siezed, I let the MMO soak for a few days and maybe even add some and roll the engine over again. Let it soak a few days. Roll it over several times.
    Next I'll do my dry and wet compression tests. The readings may (probably) be lower than original specs but may be high enough to get the engine to run. If the compression readings are close to equal, all the better.
    Drain the gas tank and carburator and install fresh gas.
    Make sure you have coolant, not just water.
    Install new spark plugs and be sure firing order is correct.
    If you get it to start, expect LOTS of smoke. Just clearing out the cylinders of all that oil you put in. Make sure you have oil pressure! If not, shut it down. Listen for any knock sounds. If you have oil pressure (5 pounds or more at idle) let the tractor warm up and even drive it around (if tires are holding air).
    Now your work is cut out for you. Just me. I may have left something out but others will chime in and get me back on track. LOL

    Ozlander    Posted 12-30-2019 at 11:48:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I think I would change the oil and filter, run it hard for a couple of hours and see what happens.
    Not knowing it's history, could have stuck rings.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-30-2019 at 08:24:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A compression test will verify how bad the engine is or isn't. The NAA, dunned the JUBILEE only for the '53 Model, used the new Ford 'Red Tiger 'OHV 134 CID engine - a much better design than the flat tops. The 600 Model was introduced in 1954 and also used the 134 block. Later the 800 Model was introduced and they now used the OHV 'Red Tiger' 172 CID Engine. Cylinder liners were cast iron since mid-1950. I suggest to get the block stripped down before buying any new parts. You will want to take it to a reliable shop to get boiled before rebuilding. they or you if doing the work yourselves will want to have it checked for cracks and get the bores verified, crank ground, and possibly other parts in order to see which parts you need. OEM 134 bore spec is 3.44" but some have bored out to a larger size and piston and/or discarded sleeves and bored out larger too. Get yourself a copy of the NAA Operator's Manual; a copy of the 39-53 MPC; and a copy of the Clymer I&T FO19 manual. The other important facts are how is the electrical system? Is it running OK now? Is it OEM 6V/POS GRN or switched out to 12V? Sheet metal can be replaced -Dennis Carter makes new repops and ebay always has parts for sale. And you can always repaint any colour you like. If you got the unit as gift then you don't have much investment in it so evaluate what it would need.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Ultradog MN    Posted 12-30-2019 at 02:36:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A Jubilee should have sleeves like an N. But remember, that same engine would physically fit into all the 4 cylinder Fords from 1953-1964 so another engine could have been swapped into your tractor over the years. Ford discontinued using sleeves in all of them in about 59 or 60. Someone here will know exactly when.
    A Jube is a pretty big step forward from a 2N with Live hydraulics, draft/position control, better brake pedals and distributer location and a real drawbar - in addition to more horsepower. Enjoy!

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