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JR in AR    Posted 04-06-2020 at 23:48:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 2N
  • I am still working on the Jubilee, and In fact got the motor pulled today.

    This is about the 47 2N. Over the past two years, it has gotten harder and harder to start. The starter is strong. It used to start very easy with the throttle in any position. Now the throttle has to be in the lowest possible position. It also floods very easily. I have checked and I am getting spark to the spark plugs and I am getting gas.

    Once it is running, it does great! It has plenty of power for mowing with a 5’ brush hog, box blade, or pulling a trailer full of firewood.

    Could it be that the distributor cap is worn to the point that the timing is off? I have changed points, condenser, and coil before. Tonight I had to throw a tarp over it because I couldn’t get it started and it normally “sleeps” in the shed. I have had it since 2002.

    JR in AR    Posted 04-09-2020 at 22:52:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Much better than it has been in a couple of years. It turns out that since I was hurrying the night before, I did not take the distributor off to put on the new rotor and cap. I just fitted them on in place.

    For some reason, the rotor had a spot that would hit on the cap. I tried the new rotor with the old cap and it did the same thing. Long story short, i ended up putting my old rotor and cap back on, but with the new plugs. I turned it over and it fired the first time I tried it.

    It is still picky about where the throttle is positioned for starting, which has not always been the case, but it does start 100 times easier! The new plugs made a much bigger difference than I have ever seen with any other motor.

    JR in AR    Posted 04-08-2020 at 12:40:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 2N
  • Yesterday I replaced the rotor, distributor cap, and plugs. I had been getting spark at the plugs, but now I am not...
    Rotor, cap, and plugs were all showing some wear. I guess I will pull the distributor today. I know I am getting power at the coil.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 04-07-2020 at 07:21:46 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 2N
  • Is it 6V/POS GRN or a 12V switch over job? Is the wiring all correct for whatever system you are using? If 6V, do you have the 1-Wire/3-Brush generator with the roundcan cutout? Do you have the OEM Ballast Resistor no matter if 6V or 12V? The front mount distributor breaker points are set to .015". The timing is set on your bench per instructions in manuals. The unit is mounted one correct way and if off 180° will damage the base and render it useless. You can static test the coil before replacing but if you changed it out and still had same problem, chances are it isn't a coil issue. I've never had a condenser go bad but some do from what I've read. Once plugs foul out/get wet, it will be doubly difficult for them to fire so pull and use a hand candle igniter to dry off, clean with a wire brush then recheck plug gap at .027" +/- .001". Firing order is 1,2,4,3 on all Ford tractors. A good strong battery is mandatory. Not just 'charged" but tested for specific gravity under load. Go slow, get the essential mails for reference, and ask questions. In case you forgot, and to help others with same issues, try these pix for reference:

    FORD TRACTOR 9N & 2N OEM 6V/POS GRN WIRING:



    FORD TRACTOR FRONT MOUNT DISTRIBUTOR FIRING ORDER; 1,2,4,3 CCW:

    FRONT MOUNT TIMING PROCEDURE:

    FORD TRACTOR FRONT MOUNT DISTRIBUTOR TIMING APPLICATION GAGE:

    FORD FRONT MOUNT DISTRIBUTOR – WHAT HAPPENS WHEN MOUNTED 180° OFF:


    9N WIRING PICTOGRAM BY JMOR:


    Tim Daley(MI)

    JR in AR    Posted 04-07-2020 at 08:12:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • It is a 12 Volt Conversion done by Stan Williams. Stan passed away about five years ago, but he was well known in our area as a person who restored N-series tractors. I know of at least forty that he did, including my brother’s. Before he retired, he was an F-16 mechanic for the 188th fighter wing here in Fort Smith, AR.

    I guess I will go back through the checklists again and see if I find anything I have missed, but I have already done that at least a dozen times... Checking gaps, etc.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 04-07-2020 at 16:48:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 2N
  • OK, you need a 12V battery, a 12V alternator, with the generator and cutout removed from the circuit. the OEM Ballast Resistor and OEM front mount distributor are still required. If you use a 6V coil you need to add an external in-line ceramic 1-OHM resistor. If you replace with a 12V coil no need to add the extra resistor. You can get all the Wiring Pictograms downloaded for free in our HOW-TO's forum under Electrical.

    FORD 9N/2N WIRING 6V & 12V:

    FORD N-SERIES TRACTOR FRONT MOUNT DISTRIBUTOR 9N-12250 BALLAST RESISTOR:

    EXTERNAL IN-LINE 1-OHM CERAMIC RESISTOR – REQUIRED WITH THE FRONT MOUNT DISTRIBUTOR WHEN USING A 6-VOLT COIL:


    Tim Daley(MI)

    HCooke    Posted 04-07-2020 at 08:16:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 2N
  • May be time to check compression.

    JR in AR    Posted 04-07-2020 at 12:29:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • That thought has crossed my mind...

    JR in AR    Posted 04-06-2020 at 23:56:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I forgot to mention that I believe the carb is in good working order. The reason it usually floods is because I have tried to start it, it didn’t start, I pulled out the choke briefly, didn’t start, push in choke didn’t start. Again, I have had it since 2002, and grew up on a temperamental Oliver, so I know what I am supposed to do to start it.

    jimj19478n    Posted 04-08-2020 at 06:46:20 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 2N
  • you might want to change spark plugs since you flooded it .plugs foul out easy with today's gas

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