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Rich    Posted 05-12-2020 at 05:47:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I have a 1946 2N Ford Tractor don't have the serial number off hand. But my question is how many tractors did they make Blue. I'm not really overly keen on the blue but that is the color and don't want to change it either. So is there a reason for the blue and how many.

    Thanks for the history Rich

    Ultradog MN    Posted 05-12-2020 at 19:52:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Ford built more Blue tractors for more years than all other colors combined.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-12-2020 at 07:53:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Rich-
    No 'N-Series or Hundred Series Models were ever painted blue at the Rouge/Highland Park factories. The FORD Blue and White scene didn't come out til 1962 with the Thousand Series Models. However, many farmers did paint their N's blue, my uncles included, in the 60's as they liked the blue better. In addition, the Ford sales crew was instructed for dealers to repaint their excess inventory of 2Ns when the new 8N was released in July, 1947 with Vermillion (red) and Medium Grey in hops buyers would 'think' they were getting a newer 8N model. When the Thousand Series Models came out in the early 1960's, dealers were offered to bring their Hundred Series models in to be repainted blue and white. No records exist to indicate how many were actually done by dealers and I'd say most you see were done by the farmers themselves. It's your tractor and you can do whatever you want, including painting it, but I caution many here will advise against using the yeller & green motif!


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    John in MIch    Posted 05-12-2020 at 07:33:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Blue was not a 1946 Ford tractor color. Gray was standard, about battleship color. Someone will object to that description but it is close.
    There may have been some painted yellow for municiple use or even airport use. Some may have been painted military OD (olive drab). Blue sounds like a POs favorite color.
    When the 48 8N came out, many dealers still had 9/2Ns on their lots. Many of those got painted red and gray like the 8Ns or "redbellies". Farmers wanted the "new" tractors.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-12-2020 at 09:42:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • HiYa John. I know you are already aware of this but I'll just put it out there for others. Yep, when the 8N came out in July, 1947 dealers and farmers alike painted their 2Ns and 9Ns Vermillion(red) and Med Grey and later, blue and white. My uncles painted our grandpas'(mine now) early 9N blue and white on the mid 60's because they liked the blue better. Dealers offered to paint the Hundred Series models as well to blue and white after the Thousand Series came out. FoMoCo never painted any models different than the OEM standard Ford Dark Grey M2888 (Ford never called it "Battleship Grey", that was always a misnomer) on all 9N and 2N models and the 8N introduced the new color scheme as Vermillion (Red)and Medium Grey used up thru the Hundred Series models. The exceptions in regards to paint were, when orders for fleets from state and municipalities were received from dealers, the order would include what paint color they wanted. Yellow was most used but some were also all red or all green. Yes, tractors and implements were only sold by dealers, supplied by the Ferguson-Sherman Corp who was the sales and distributorship division til 1946 when Dearborn Motors became the new tractor and implement division after Ferguson was fired. No FORD factory ever sold the machines. This was the infamous handshake agreement. Ford would manufacture the tractor and Ferguson would handle distribution. When the Ford-Ferguson Moto-Tug was built, it used a basic 9N tractor then was shipped straight from the Rouge to a dealer in Columbus, Ohio, for final assembly hooking up with the suppliers that made the special Tug parts. NO FORD factory ever built the Tug, only under contract with Ferguson Mfg. and FORD using the 9N. The paint spec for the TUG was at first to be "Lusterless Grey" a bluish-grey shade as the first orders were to be used on carriers in WWII. Soon Olive Drab Green and basic 9N Grey were added as for use on airfields and other military bases. After WWII ended, many TUGS were returned to the Pacific Naval bases to be scrapped or revamped for other uses. When the Korean Conflict erupted, Tugs were then painted yellow and used again on carriers. This is the story on Ford tractor Paints.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Chad Stevens FL    Posted 05-12-2020 at 21:14:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • That explains it. My 650 is white and red, but I noticed blue paint under some of the white paint that has worn off. Now I know why! Thanks!

    Gaspump    Posted 05-12-2020 at 08:47:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • You might be interested to know that the color was Ford Cooperate Gray. Ford Motor painted everything they owned that color. All interiors production building steelwork, any large machine, safety railings and staircases, all company cars and trucks, superstructure of steamships, exterior structures like silos conveyors etc etc.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 05-14-2020 at 08:01:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yes, I knew the Rouge and Highland Park Plants were painted grey but a tad lighter than the 9N. Machinery, floors, pillars -all were painted. There is no definitive data to verify Ford used the same shade and some have said (incorrectly) they got a deal on 'battleship grey' starting with the Eagle boats. FORD had a few suppliers including the Rouge Paint Dept. DuPont was major suppliers and had a plant complex in Mt. Clemens, MI. I was told this by Mr. Brock.

    Tim Daley (MI)

    Gaspump    Posted 05-15-2020 at 14:19:07 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I think you are referring to the Ditzler paint plant. For decades Ditzler was the main supplier of Ford Motor Paints. Ditzler was bought by PPG long before the N tractors came along but the name stayed on. PPG paint labels were showing up in increasing numbers at Ford as the years went by. Not aware of any DuPont paints at FMC. DuPont was the primary supplier to GM. DuPont may have bought the Mt Clemens plant at some point in time, I don't know. At Ford Tractor the color was 9/2N color was refered to being corporate gray. You may recall before the Blue Oval it was the Gray Oval. I have often seen the DuPont auto finishes(now Axalta) guys at the race track as they were primary sponsors of the 24 and associate on the other three HMS cars and still are.

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 05-12-2020 at 07:49:25 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I believe in the early 70's was a campaign from the Ford dealers to get your old tractor painted with a the new Ford Blue paint job.
    This was used to get the farmers into the showroom and show them the new tractors being offered that year. I have a Gold Demonstrator tat was repainted blue.
    What a mess.

    Gaspump    Posted 05-12-2020 at 08:56:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • That campaign actually started back in the red gray days. It was due to much research that proved that tractors painted in the current colors sold quicker and at a higher price than the original colored units. Tractors changing to blue was due to another huge campaign that had to do with a bad reputation of some Ford engines like the 292. Ford Motor mandated that all Ford engines from then on be painted the "Blue stands for Quality" which included tractors. The tractor division hated it but had no choice.

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