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Brad    Posted 05-30-2020 at 13:46:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • "Red-letter" Heat-N-Beat day! :-)

  • After literally weeks (over a month!) applying penetrating fluid, propane weed-burner-torch, sledgehammer and air hammer, it finally freed up! :-)

    Ford 8N tracctor has entered a new chapter in usefulness for what it can do, and what I can use it for. Yay! :-)

    However, I'm wondering if anyone knows, if I have more "Heat-N-Beat" to go?

    When the pin came out (under persuasion of air hammer & sledgehammer, whacking pin back and forth until it finally "surrendered" and came out), pin came out with a sort of "split collar" on it, as you can see in the photo below.

    I'm suspicious, that it's going to be necessary to continue working with pin until collar slips off?

    I know I'm going to have to weld pin's tip back onto the end, which broke off when working with sledgehammer, and to re-drill/straighten/true pin-end's hole for hitch pin, but I'm not so sure about collar that's on the pin?

    Brad    Posted 05-30-2020 at 13:55:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Darn %#@* picture didn't stick to the bottom of my previous post!

    Well here now, I guess this way will work? I'll put link in the comments below, and also add it in the URL box. One way or the other ought to work! lol

    Not the best way to do it, but having the picture does make it a whole lot easier to understand an answer my post lol :-)


    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 06-04-2020 at 19:08:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Here's Photo

    Mike W    Posted 05-30-2020 at 20:24:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Looks like the pivot pin for the top link rocker. Some are short, some are long. I heard there was some unfulfilled purpose for the three loops.

    Brad    Posted 05-31-2020 at 07:26:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Thanks for reply, more "Heat-N-Beat" to go! :-)
  • I've been doing some more reading Mike, and the "long pin" looks like a "top link pin" and "split collar" looks like "top link reducer bushing"I believe my answer is: more "heat and beat" to go! to get spacer to come off of pin.

    I'm still looking to confirm correct terminology for name/description of pin and bushing lol :-) If I haven't figured things rightly, doubtless someone'll chime in to make corrections lols >:-D

    Brad    Posted 05-30-2020 at 21:07:35 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks for the reply and information... looks like I've got more reading up to do... When I see an unfulfilled "mysterious purpose," my "curiosity bump" starts itching, and I just gotta scratch it! lol :-)

    Mike W    Posted 05-31-2020 at 08:27:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I've never paid any attention as to whether all N's have the extra loops or not. Familiarity breeds contempt they say. When it comes to reducing bushings I prefer the split ones that are a friction fit. The others must be stored in the toolbox when not in use and are always on the bottom when needed.
    One I've learned the hard way: circular objects, like inner bearing races, seldom let go by heating only one side. Heat applied 180 degrees apart pops em right off.
    Extra loops were probably a Ferguson brain storm and the purpose may have been buried with Harry.

    Brad    Posted 05-31-2020 at 09:08:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Mike,

    I do believe the extra holes that you're speaking of have been discussed in tractor forums as for their purposes. Essentially, they were for special purpose on specific type of implements only. Forums voice strong opinions on safe usage.

    Most of the advice I've seen online says don't use them, or if you do use, only for the specific implements/scenarios that they were designed for... or else! lol

    The usual caveats are given on forums: As in many things, (un-)Common Sense prevails, and misusing something beyond it's intended purpose can sometimes result in unexpected, unpleasant consequences. lol "SOP" :-)

    My '49 Ford 8N didn't come with "extra-loops", and I can't perceive of any good enough reasons to add them (I could cast steel to make, if it were to be needed).

    I haven't spent much effort searching forums for something I'm not going to use, however, further information's available for the curious amongst us lol :-)

    Here's your "extra loops, Mike:

    Mike W    Posted 05-31-2020 at 21:16:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Got three with the extra loops, one has the long pin. Not sure about my neighbors 40 model. People get into trouble asking machinery to do more than the laws of physics allow. They pulled the All Crop 60 with 9N's back in the forties. It was hard to get it started without live PTO, so once going they ran all day without stopping the machine. Driver swaps were tricky with just the foot pegs.
    Only rode the bagging platform on that thing once when I was a kid. Dirty job. Been parked in its shed now for 52 years. Use a Gleaner F these days.
    The N series is banned from loaded hay wagons as not heavy enough to control em going downhill, and it's a lot more pleasant putting wagons away with the air conditioned 5640.
    Amazing how far tractors have come since '39.

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