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8n13325    Posted 07-23-2020 at 22:01:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Washington state owners
  • I am in South Bend, Washington and just purchased 47, 8n for my tree farms.
    Yes it is a 47. no inner axle seal and internal eccentric shim to adjust steering end play. 8n13325
    Pulling and skidding life from now on and a little road TLC.

    Looking for ford 8n owners that would interested in working together in repairing our tractors. It would be a collaboration of shop, tools, labor and experience.
    At one point in time each person would be asking for help in some way.
    The only requirement would be: BBQ, BEER AND CAMPFIRE for a relaxing meal and BEER after the day.
    Lots of tractor talk. lol

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 07-24-2020 at 08:05:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Welcome aboard. There are several members in your area so you should have no problem getting together. Back in the early days of the NTC we had an annual "Steak Fry" where we'd meet for a weekend, drink beer, eat well, drink beer, blow up things, drink beer, drive Ford tractors, and drink beer. Congrats on bragging rights to your early 8N. I have s/n *8N-I55I3* so we are real close to when the engine was assembled, tested, and passed inspection. The 8N Tractor was introduced on July 7, 1947 as the newest Ford tractor model. The '8' designated it was for the year, 1948, and was never to be advertised as a 1947 8N. There were 37,907 8N's released in 1947. The premise was the same as the 1939 9N model released in June, 1939 and numbered that model thru October, 1942. After then the models were the '2N' up until the last was produced in December, 1946. early 1942 produced about 10,000 9N models til February 10, 1942 when the US War Board halted all commercial production for every manufacturer with materials and production to be only for WWII ordnance. The first 2N models were not produced until October, 1942 and then as the steel-wheeled/magneto installed units, often called 'the warhorse models. Standard 2N production didn't resume until April, 1943 after a visit from President Roosevelt in January from Harry Ferguson convinced him that the US needed to continue producing products, farming especially, at home. Standard 2N production continued until December, 1946, when Henry Ford II fired Harry Ferguson. All 2N models sold in 1947 had blocks cast in 1946, stamped as 1947 models when approved by QC, then assembled as full 2N Tractors then. the last 2Ns were released in April, 1947. All engine blocks cast from then on would have the 1947 casting code date tag, new assembled engine blocks (tractors) were now stamped as 1948 8N Models. You can find your engine casting code date on tag on the starter pocket -it is all part of the block. Casting codes defined as: Month/Day/Year block was cast, NOT the day tractor was built. Add 30 days or more to your tractor build date from there. For example, my early 8N has the casting code date of "I167" -which means my block was cast on September 16, 1947. The reason I explained all this is to clear up the 1947 8N talk. Although many parts on the N's are the same, the 8N had some new changes made. The hydraulics now had POSITION CONTROL added and the transmission now had 4-Speed gearing to name a few major changes. If you go to but parts at a dealer and you tell him you have a 1947 Ford Tractor he will sell you 9N/2N parts, which may or may not be correct for an 8N. So, look forward to hearing how your BBQ and left coast bivouac goes, post details and lots of pictures.

    FORD ENGINE BLOCK SERIAL NUMBER IDENTIFICATION:

    FORD N-SERIES TRACTOR SERIAL NUMBER LOCATION:


    EARLY 8N ENGINE CASTING DATE CODE BOSS, SEPTEMBER 16, 1947:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    8n13325    Posted 07-25-2020 at 17:24:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I got the engine number, its my user name here.
    Only thing I see is the transmission has A43 stamped vertical on right side (in seat).
    This is learning on the job for me. 1st tractor and also had a nostalgic itch for Ford 8n.
    62-64 living with my uncle while dad was in nam. Rides on the tractor at 2 was the greatest thing ever...
    My 2000 chevy is a 99, so got what you saying about yr.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 07-26-2020 at 04:22:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • What is the casting date code on the starter pocket? "A43" means nothing. Also, axle trumpets may have a casting date code tag as well and the aluminum hydraulic pump will have one too. They'll be closer to block tag date but not the same.


    Tim Daley(MI)

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 07-24-2020 at 10:57:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • " Casting codes defined as: Month/Day/Year block was cast, NOT the day tractor was built. "

    Actually.......to be precise.....the casting code is the date the molding was made. The blocks were cast sometime after that. The mold was good for " X" blocks.

    Jock(OR)    Posted 07-25-2020 at 16:02:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The tags were attached to the molds that made the sand forms for casting the blocks. The tags were attached with screws, which would allow changing the tags each day, if not more or less frequently. The tags were produced with a machine that worked like a Dymo label maker. This meant that the tags could be changed very easily.

    Many blocks could be cast using the same mold. While they suffered some wear/damage in use, they were quite durable. The tags were changed to keep track of production, quality control, and inventory. It makes sense that the tag would be changed daily, given that the code stamped in them referred to specific days.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 07-24-2020 at 18:19:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The blocks were cast each day and date code tagged as such -why would they apply a date tag? It's in the books. The date code tags were applied the day they poured the casting. Look at your tag, It is cast with the rest of the block not added later, couldn't be added later.

    Tim Daley(MI)

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