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Zeke    Posted 08-31-2020 at 10:59:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Sherman date
  • Is there a way to date a Sherman 2 speed transmission on a ‘46 2N? I know zip about Shermans except that the lever is on the right inspection cover and I get high/low performance

    Thanks
    Zeke in Oregon

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 09-01-2020 at 15:15:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Zeke in Oregon, Where about's? I am north of Hillsboro with her Fergy TO-20 with the Howard and Hupp.

    Zeke    Posted 09-02-2020 at 10:49:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Oregon
  • Bruce, I live in Sisters outside of Bend. Small horse ranch ( ranch not small horses )🤪 I have a ‘45 and a ‘46 ford. Lots of fun. Let me know if you are heading this way.
    Zeke

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 09-02-2020 at 23:26:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Oregon
  • It will be some time before I head out that direction. I recently took my '94 idiT diesel over Mt Hood and it didn't like it. I guess the new $600 radiator might help it over the mountain next time. Then again, I was pushing it hard.
    If you wait a short time more, you can visit Portland after the fires go out if anything is left.
    I am about 22 miles from the nightly fires. I was thinking about making a sign and parking my other truck on the outskirts of downtown Portland.

    Passport for Portland.
    Used Bricks---$2
    Rocks---------$1
    Then spray paint over it, "Sold Out".

    Too much like fun.
    Now if I wasn't married. . .


    Kirk-NJ    Posted 08-31-2020 at 16:00:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Sherman date
  • Go on YouTube and punch in Howard transmission and one of my videos will come up. In one of those videos you can see the location of the serial number location. I’ve had several and largest number was around 27K or so

    TheOldHokie    Posted 08-31-2020 at 12:23:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Sherman's are mounted forward of the transmission and the shifter is on the bell housing. Sounds like you have something after the transmission which suggests a Howard reduction gearbox. Much less common than Shermans and if working well worth more than the tractor.

    TOH

    Zeke    Posted 08-31-2020 at 15:32:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Ok thanks for helping out. Yes the shifter is even with the seat. The lever looks like the pto lever and is on the opposite side. Is this a real thing or somebody’s “good” idea?

    I appreciate the help
    Zeke (OR)

    TheOldHokie    Posted 08-31-2020 at 16:41:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Is this a real thing or somebody’s “good” idea?

    The Howard transmission was made in England by the Howard Rotavator Company for the express purpose of running their PTO driven rotovator (tiller). The transmission reduces ground speed without affecting PTO speed which is more or less a must for roto-tilling with early Fords and most people beleive it to be a "good thing". The N-series version of the reduction transmission is a bit of a Rube Goldberg design and is known for eating the reduction gears which are now unobtainium. So if you have one with good gears it's a valuable and useful commodity. Treat it well and it should give you good service.

    Do not try to shift the underdive in or out until the tractor and driveline are at a COMPLETE stop.

    Shifting while the tractor or mechanism is in motion will eat those gears and you will become the proud owner of yet another roached Howard.

    TOH

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-31-2020 at 11:19:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Sherman date
  • Can't answer that and don't think it matters much anyway. Model year of an N isn't really relevant, I don't think. Kirk (NJ) knows for sure. We have a few documents our MANUALS forum on the Shermans plus the CLYMER/I&T FO-4 Manual has a chapter on the Shermans. By "2-Speed" do you mean the HI-LO (Combo) Transmission? Are you having problems?

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Zeke    Posted 08-31-2020 at 11:28:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • No problems (thank the Lord) But the guy I bought the tractor from said it was a ‘39.....it isn’t and That it had a ‘45 high/Lo The sn# is 9N 217890 which I think is a’46 2N. You are right it does not matter that much to me. Thanks for the reply

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-31-2020 at 13:00:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Here's more info on the AUX TRANS...go to John Smith's page too -see LINK. Your s/n only means the engine was approved and stamped in 1946, the last year any 2N's were ever built. 2N Production ceased in December, 1946. All 1947 2N's were actually cast and assembled in 1946. I meant though a s/n on a Sherman doesn't matter, if they exist at all, -they were all meant to go on any N Tractor. When we refer to Left and Right side of tractor, they are determined by sitting in the seat and going by your left and right. Note where the shifter is on each of the AUX TRANS.

    HOWARD AUX TRANS:


    EVERETT AUX TRANS:

    HUPP AUX TRANS:


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