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Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-24-2017 at 16:42:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • FORD Generator ID?
  • I need to identify this Ford generator. This is not a tractor generator but it is a Ford generator, called the 'post mount' style. I can't find any info nor pictures on it though. The unit adjusts belt tension by a ratchet post that cranks up or down in tube. The pulley that came with it I don't believe is correct as the fins were hitting. I think the pulley is an early V8 type. There was a round-can cutout with it that has the FORD logo stamped on top. The armature is too worn to see any Ford logo and date stamp. Here is the part in question...

    Tim Daley(MI)

    FORD 'POST' GENERATOR:


    FORD GENERATOR PULLEY, EARLY V8? :


    Bruce Dorsi    Posted 08-25-2017 at 09:35:27 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Tim:

    I have a Ford Parts Catalog dated April, 1949.

    Following-up on 36 Coupe's info below, there are two generators listed for 1932, 1933, V8 90hp engines.

    Generator # 18-10000-A described as 3-brush, 6v, single 4.08" sheave used in 1932. This used a # 18-10139 front-end plate assy., which is illustrated the same as your pic and described as 7.93" overall length.

    Generator # 40-10000-A described as 3-brush, 6v, 12A, single 4.08" sheave used in 1933-1934. This used a # 40-10139-A front-end plate assy. (non-ventilated) which was replaced by # 40-10139-b ventilated front-end plate assy. Neither of these front plates are illustrated.

    Both of these generators used 9.19" long armature # 18-10005.

    Both of these generators used single-sheave pulley #18-10130 described as 4.03" O.D., which contradicts above description of 4.08" (printing mistake?).

    As of the 1949 printing, both of these generators were replaced by # 81A-10000-A.
    ...There is no illustration of either of the earlier gens, just the #81-A1000-A.

    The cutout assy listed for 1928-1939 is # B-10505 for use with 3-brush gen.

    Hope this info helps you.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-25-2017 at 16:51:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yep, I got out my book on the early V8 As Henry Built It and there it was, only about a paragraph on the post generator, first used on the 32 models, p/n 18-10000-A. I can't find a schematic for it though. In'33 they went to the 'fork' style mounting post. the '32 roadster was popular then but the club I found, members are all converted over to alternators. Thanks, Bruce for the heads up.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-25-2017 at 11:24:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • THANKS Bruce,,, I'll check further but all of my searches for early V8-generators came up empty for the 18-10000 genny

    Tim

    36 coupe    Posted 08-24-2017 at 19:05:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The Ford V8 used that generator in 1932 33.A different mount using a nut and bolt came into use in late 1933.the fan bolted to the generator pulley.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-25-2017 at 06:10:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Why can't I find any info nor any pictures of it? The old guy that sold it to my friend had two and kept one, told him what it was for, but he forgot, and can't locate the guy now. He told my buddy it was the 'rare. post mount generator' so I guess it sure is.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    36 coupe    Posted 08-25-2017 at 19:10:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • It should be listed in the 1928 to 1946 Ford parts book.But I dont think you will see pictures.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-26-2017 at 05:43:50 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yep, but can't find any drawings for the early '28 18-10000-A generator on-line. Strange, as all others are there. I received the drawings last night from early V8 guru Lin Stacey so am all set now to get parts for this project. I did find an early 1928 Ford Roadster Club but they couldn't help me -all the members had converted to alternators. The post mount is listed as a 'HD' style so must have been rare to begin with. My DeAngelis book says it was the first early '28 style.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    36 coupe    Posted 08-26-2017 at 09:50:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A Model A generator would have the prefix A not 18.I have seen photos of the post generator on the first V8.Theres no way to mount a post mount on the model A block.There was a generator called the Power House that mounted in the same place as the stock generator.The prefix 18 first appeared on the v8.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-26-2017 at 14:40:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • It is not for a Model A -I never said it was... early V8 is what I said...and what it is...18-prefix designates that...


    Tim Daley(MI)

    36 coupe    Posted 08-26-2017 at 16:30:41 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Read your previous post.You said 28 A 18 10000 .An 18 prefix refres to 1932 1933.In 1934 the prefix changed to 40 in 1935 48.Thats the problem with forums ,half the info is wrong.I did repair work on Ford generators and starters for many years.Still have new parts left.Had to quit because cataracts took my eye sight.Had surgery on both eyes.I never have seen a post type generator.I have owned a Model A and 7 early V8s.I still own a 36 Ford.I have the Ford service manual and the Ford parts book 1928 to 1948. My Dad owned a Model A and a 34 2 door.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-26-2017 at 17:44:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • 36 -Look again my friend. I posted '28 18-10000-A -SUFFIX not prefixed letter 'A'. That would indicate there was a revision, probably when they went to the fork mount. The post style was the first early 1928 generator -that data is in the book. It is also on the drawing Lin sent me of the exploded parts view, taken fromnteh1932 Chassis Manual and of course in my initial post, the pictures I inserted. If you still have generator parts, I'd be interested...my email is open..

    Tim Daley(MI)

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