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Hank    Posted 01-27-2018 at 09:33:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Transplanting trees
  • I am kind of a tree nut I like to transplant trees from the back woods and plant them in our old unused pasture I also start them from seed I either gather in the fall or purchase off eBay I'm having ok luck with both wondering if any of you have done this and with what success rate any tips for getting better results I live in zone 4 I might also be interested in seeds that people have

    Jimmyjack    Posted 01-27-2018 at 23:55:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Im trying with Black Walnut and Hickory right now. How long does it take for the nuts to sprout? No luck in four weeks.

    Hank    Posted 01-28-2018 at 08:47:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • first you should float your seeds in a bucket of water plant the ones that drop to the bottom take the ones that drop to the bottom and throw in the refridgerator for 3months then they should be ready to plant check out youtube for info videos

    John in Mich    Posted 01-27-2018 at 22:08:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • It is great to see others so interested in planting and transplanting trees. My first exposure to this was with my mother's father (my grandfather). He started evergreens in central Michigan from seeds in his own seed beds in the late 1930's for conservation. I always admired looking at some of the mature trees, many still standing today.
    In the early 70's I bought a few evergreen seedlings from the local cooperative extension service and planted them on the perimeter of our 3/4 acre. We lost some to the lawn mower and some to drought.
    On our current property that WAS 6 acres (now 3 acres) my mother helped me plant several hundred evergreen seedlings, Norway Spruce, Blue Spruce, White Spruce and Austrian Pine. In another area I planted some Black Walnut trees. She watched them grow until her passing in 2001.
    We purchased the adjacent 6 acres of farm land and then an additional 5 acres of farm land next to that. It was a great place to play and to plant trees. I let nature develop a young oak woods along the fence rows and then "harvested" some with a rented tree spade on a skid steer for the yard around the house.
    I found that my survival rate was best when transplanting in the fall. I watered them every week until winter started using a 250 gallon farm tank in my one ton Chevy. The trees were done growing for the season and the shock of being moved was less stressful to them.
    I was moving some trees a quarter mile. I selected and marked all the natural seeded trees that I wanted to move, Marked the locations where they were going and then dug the first hole with the spade. Then, I moved the first tree and dug the next hole taking the dirt to fill hole from the first tree moved, etc, etc.
    My loss rate was zero doing this versus about 5% for some trees that I bought from a nursery.
    Some of my early evergreens are now 35-40 feet tall. Some of my oaks are 20-25 feet tall. I have had to remove a couple evergreens because they got too big near the house and garage. I'm also losing some Austrian Pines to disease. They will go to the backyard fire pit some evening.

    Hank    Posted 01-27-2018 at 18:52:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • iI have been digging out sugar maples, ironwood,some elm, ash,mountain ash, plum and from seed I plant red,white oak,butternut lots and lots of black walnut only because neighbors are more then happy to get rid of the seeds this year I will try european beech, chinese chestnut, shagbark hickory I used to order tree seedlings from the county then I purchased from the state in larger numbers had ok results then found out planting seeds the trees grew so much faster

    steveVa    Posted 01-27-2018 at 18:33:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • What type of trees do you plant? Oak, spruce, pine, maple.
    Maple trees seem to be the most difficult.
    I have had great luck with dogwoods and red maples.
    I collect the small seedlings in the spring and plant them in pots.
    I water them often and keep them warm for a year or two. Then I just keep putting them in bigger pots until they get big enough to be seen by lawn mowers and have lots of concentrated roots.
    I can move them around in the pots and even bring them inside when it gets real cold. I can also cull out the faster growing trees. Those are the ones I plant in the ground. Usually when they are about 4, 5, or 6 feet tall.
    This method has an almost 100% success rate, and I have also given many trees as gifts. Now people both down at the river and around the farm here request my trees.
    I have dogwoods and red maples some 30 feet tall.

    steveVa    Posted 01-27-2018 at 18:38:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I always plant the big trees in the ground in the fall. I water them well and cover them with pine straw.

    steveVa    Posted 01-28-2018 at 09:50:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • All trees have a North side and a South side. When I transplant seedlings, saplings, or bigger trees, I always put a piece of flagging tape on a South facing limb. Then I keep that limb pointing South.

    John in Mich    Posted 01-28-2018 at 14:40:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I didn't mark a particular side but tried to keep them facing the same direction, but then I thought, how do I know which way a nursery tree was facing while it grew?

    steveVa    Posted 01-28-2018 at 20:42:11 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • To me It is more important when you transplant one that grew up in the woods.

    Dave Smith    Posted 01-27-2018 at 14:42:41 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • This may sound weird to you
    Since 1988 I have planted over 15000 trees on this place. Some I had very good luck with, some not so good luck. I do not have a green thumb.
    I got most of the trees from the county extension service here in New York. I planted Norway spruce, white spruce, black walnuts. mammoth hickory's, Chinese chestnuts ( No luck at all with them) and white pines. I used a jump stick for some and for some I used a post hole digger. With the post hole digger I would dig a hole about 18 inches deep. Throw a couple of tree food pellets in, shove the loose dirt in and plant the tree on top. Many of these trees are 20 to 30 foot tall now.
    Here in Western NY I had to put tree tubes over the nut trees to keep the deer from eating them off.
    They don't seem to bother the spruce and pines. But the have really raised he!! with the cedar shrubs I planted here near the buildings.

    Now the weird thing, In remembrance of dogs that I have berried, I planted a tree on top of them. The trees I planed over the dogs grew three times faster than other trees I planted at the same time.
    My kids know that when I die, I want to be cremated. I want them to dig a hole and put my ashes in and plant a tree on top of me. Since the laws will not let them put my whole body in.
    Dave <*)))><

    Charles (N.C.)    Posted 01-27-2018 at 11:21:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A wonderful idea & hobby.I live in the lower sandhills of N.C..I love the Dogwoods that grow wild here but my green thumb has turned (?)so I have no luck transplanting them.I learned early on to transplant in the late winter to early,early spring and never put a tree in a .50 cent hole and do try to use the natural mulch for all trees.I do try to plant trees out along the 12ac. perimeter so at some point the next owner wont have to deal with too much removal.One thing I might add ,,,little trees grow up to be big trees thus never put them to interfere with power or water & sewer lines.If there is a "certain area" you enjoy I would say do not plant to block the view.Hope your "green thumb"last a long time. Njoy!

    Chales Krammin    Posted 02-02-2018 at 11:01:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Transplanting trees, growing other nut trees
  • I am a member of the "Michigan nut growers club" and have gained much knowledge from other nut growers and from education. Here is what I currently have experience in. I am fortunate in that I live and grow in central Michigan and have excess to the family farm in the Lake Michigan shore fruit growing district, each with different growing zones.
    In Hastings MI I have access to 4 mature "English Walnut trees" which need constant management for disease IPM monitoring and cultural collecting of diseased nuts and disposal in a sanitary land fill to get edible nuts. I collect 140# of good seed each year and crack nuts all winter. "curcilo insects (look like rose chaffers), with a "probustics" nose, with which they open a 1/2 moon shaped slit (method of idenitification of time of infection). The nuts that are "stung" burrow into the nut, of which result in a "June drop" (thus next year infestation) collecting and sanitary disposal of infected nuts interrupts future infestation. No sprays are really effective. There are no IPM traps available.
    The other disease is the "walnut husk fly", which resemble a smaller "deer fly" and can be traped with an IPM stickie fly tape for time of infestaton and application of a insecticide like sevin or malation, laced with sorghum molasses, so they will eat the spray. the fly infestation comes in August and the worm is only in the husk, which then causes a dark kernel and the nuts when the infested nuts (black husk) fall with the good husk nut, which then can be separated and the bad nuts sanitary land fill disposal. Reinfestation of both of the above can be reinfected from nearby wild 'black walnut and wild shag bark hickory.
    So as you can see 'the trees adopt you and need your constant care.
    The other nuts that I gather and sprout and transplant are: Chinese chestnut, American chestnut, shag bark hickory, shell bark hickory (King nuts) Butternut, Black walnut, Pine nuts of which I have some English walnut 1 year old transplants and 1 year old Chinese chestnut (resistant to American chestnut decline). The above pine nuts and shell bark hickory, only grow in the Lake Michigan district zone. All others can be planted in most all of Michigan. contact me for details of the above.
    I have nuts planted last fall for "scarication" freeze thaw breaks shell for separation at germination. I have English walnut , American and Chinese chestnut, shag bark and shell bark hickory, butternut planted in soil outside, protected by screening to keep the squirrels out. Pinenuts are only 7 years old and have not produces seed yet. The varities are "Swiss" "Siberian" "Korean".
    Charles Krammin
    contact me by wmail for questions or seed/tree purchase.

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