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mthomas    Posted 02-15-2018 at 23:21:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Tracing Guns
  • A serial number does not allow a firearm to be traced beyond the initial sale.

    If a firearm is recovered at a crime scene, and the powers that be want to know who owned it, they call the manufacturer.

    The manufacturer gives the name of the wholesaler it was sold to. When the wholesaler is contacted, the name of the retail establishment is given. When the retail establishment is contacted, the name of the original purchaser is given. There is no requirement for the retail establishment to keep the data beyond 20 years.

    The BATFE then attempts to contact the original purchaser. If this person is unable to account for the disposal of the firearm, the trace ends here. There are a bazillion reasons the original owner may not be able to account for the firearm. They include death, dementia, theft, loss, private sale etc..

    When I purchase a used firearm, I give the seller a receipt that includes an accurate discription of the item purchased and the sellers identifying information. Should the BATFE ever show up on their doorstep, they are able to refer the investigator to me. My records will show my disposition of the firearm. This is the only was a trace by serial number can go beyond the original purchaser.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 02-17-2018 at 07:11:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Tracing Guns
  • My Editorial:
    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. That old adage says it all. A person who wants to commit a crime or other act of violence will acquire a weapon by any means, legally or illegally, serial number or filed off, background checks or not. The 911 hijackers with box cutters are a good example and Chicago gangsters of the 30's as well. there have been attempts by pro-gun supporters and politicians in the past to make some changes, but guess what? The votes needed to pass were held up by Pelosi and the DEMS! Banning guns is not the answer -it's not the guns, once again. Look at all the cities and nations that have already tried that. The US department of education needs to require every teacher and/or employee to undergo firearm training and safety by qualified NRA instructors and law enforcement agencies, then they would be allowed to open carry in a public school and have some self defense if an event should then be attempted. Notice too that not much is ever said about Hollywood promoting violence with their shoot-em-up movies constantly being put out there. Then moist of those people, actors, producers et al turn around and publicly spew out that we nee more anti-gun laws when a massacre occurs. Toss in the violent video games that consume many of todays kids time and money as well. Hypocrites. On the day of the recent shootings, I caught no less than a half dozen politicians and 'news' people, all DEMS by the way, using the term 'automatic weapon' long before any weapon was positively identified. An AR15 is a semi-automatic and all fully automatics are already illegal. The solution may not be the complete answer because, as I first said, a person will find a way to commit a crime no matter what, but arming our school employees is one good start. Why don't the liberals see this? Why don't they at least give it a try?

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Larry TX    Posted 02-20-2018 at 11:12:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Simply put, what is it that the Dum's, uh sorry, Dem's, don't understand that "guns don't kill - people with guns (some obviously deranged) kill".

    A fully loaded and ready to fire assault rifle and/or pistol, etc. could be positioned in the main hallway of any school and as long as it wasn't picked up and the trigger pulled, it'd stand there forever and not hurt even a fly!

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 02-20-2018 at 18:29:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The liberals don't want teachers and administrators trained in firearm use. It would probably work, at least be a huge deterrent to these crimes, but it would disrupt their ulterior motive/goal to ban ALL guns. The NRA is a colossal organization that fights for our 2nd amendment rights and if you are a gun owner, a pro-gun supporter, and don't belong, shame on you. The red flags were up on this one folks, from the school system to the social media sites, so don't just blame the FBI. The liberals don't give a crap about the kids. They just want our guns banned.

    Tim Daley(MI)

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