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Dave Smith    Posted 12-06-2018 at 20:14:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • December 7th 1941
  • A day that will live in infamy.
    Dave <*)))><

    Dean    Posted 12-07-2018 at 20:07:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Earlier today I watched a rather good documentary about Pearl Harbor on History. Though a history buff, it had lots of good B & W footage, some of which I had not before seen.

    Just finished watching Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo, a Hollywood drama about the Doolittle raid with Spencer Tracy, Van Johnson and Robert Mitcham. It too was rather good.

    Dean

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-08-2018 at 06:27:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • When I was a senior in High School, in my US Government class, for three weeks we discussed WWII. The teacher, who was also the football coach, back when football actually meant something you could be proud of, had just purchased his own new, state-of-the-art VCR, a huge SONY BETA unit, about the size of a small suitcase. He had a pre-recorded tape of "TORA TORA TORA" and so each day we'd watch section of the movie and then analyze and discuss the events that were involved leading up to the attack on Pearl Harbor. Video Cassette Recorders were new to the commercial consumer market then. Pre-recorded movies were available for like $125 and there were no 'Video Stores' to go to ford movie rentals. BETA was the only format, VHS would soon follow and eventually become the preferred format. The reason why is still a mystery because BETA is a much better format. My theory is BETA only had about a 2 hour limitation on a tape whereas VHS could allow up to 6 hours per tape. The BETA format was and is still the format used by TV and news stations. Nowadays everything is digital. Anyway, I was intrigued by the new technology and VCR machine because I was also an electronics geek, and secondly because I was and am a WWII buff. It is highly doubtful that today no high school (or college) government/history class would show any movie about WWII to a class. It's probable no high school (or college) history textbook even has chapters on WWII either.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 12-08-2018 at 23:05:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Glad you brought up the movie.
    I seem to remember that the third wave was not taken because the Japanese leadership had erroneously figured that after the second wave, the American forces would have had had enough time to gather forces and would have been prepared for the third wave and would have decimated it.
    The Japanese sought not to have major losses in the first attack and did not give the order for the third wave.
    It has also been said that if the third wave had been launched, the final outcome would have simply 6 months longer. Unfortunately, add to that the axis intelligence of developing weapons and we would have lost in another 6 months due to the advancement of axis weapons. ME262 is just one minor example. The Tiger tank was another German example along with several Japanese inventions that would have wrought havoc in the last 6 months of the conflict.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-10-2018 at 10:20:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Poor planning on the Japanese all in all. Most of the US fleet was not in port, they were out to sea. It was a Sunday so many servicemen were not on base. It's also been stated that at the time, Japanese military officials believed that every American owned a gun or three and therefore did not want to continue on to the west coast for fear they'd be exterminated. " TORA TORA TORA " is still one of favorite WWII movies having a third version now in my personal library. First it was a BETA tape for my SONY BETAMAX, then I moved into the VHS area so had to get a VHS tape, then a few years ago I got the DVD version.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 12-08-2018 at 01:16:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I saw "Destination Tokyo" the other day. The story of sub recon in Tokyo bay before the doomed Doolittle flight. I started watching "30 Seconds" and wound up taking the dog into the vet with a ripped nail on one paw and the other side with a fractured wrist joint.
    Now if the Doolittle boys had a working radio beacon to get them home. . .

    steveVa    Posted 12-07-2018 at 18:25:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A truer statement was never made.
    That date changed all our lives forever.
    I would not be here on earth if not for events that transpired from that day.

    Jim Rushford    Posted 12-07-2018 at 10:52:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Don't see anything in the paper about it. Haven't looked at the boob tube. Did any of them notice the date?

    Farmer Dan    Posted 12-07-2018 at 18:18:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Nothing on the Fox 17 morning news so I sent them an email asking why. They had a nice story on the Fox 17 evening news.

    Paul    Posted 12-07-2018 at 16:15:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Attended a local ceremony

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-07-2018 at 04:39:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Thank you to all who served, especially those who gave the ultimate sacrifice. God Bless the United States of America. It's a shame and dishonor US schools don't teach history anymore, or want to change it.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Bruce(OR    Posted 12-06-2018 at 23:00:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • We stopped their oil, they attacked us. We dropped a big bomb on them. They dropped
    MitsubishiToyoyaNissan and other bombs on us. They also blew up Fukishama power plant a year or so ago and sent all that radiation back to us.
    When did they loose?

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