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Island Mike    Posted 05-11-2019 at 10:05:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Heater
  • On my boat I have an Espar diesel heater. Works great, but they are a lot of money.
    Company in Russia copied them, and sell them for about half price. Fast forward: Company in China has copied them and sell them on line for $225.00 plus $5.50 shipping. I took a chance and bought one. It actually works. 12 volts for the electrical system. So I bought a new battery for the belch mobile, and a battery tender. Unit comes with a tank for the diesel. The instructions are crap, but they are pretty basic to set up. Press the control button to start, press again for about three seconds to stop. Heat is not instant, but quick enough. I drilled a 4 inch hole through the side of the rolling condo, and finally have some warmth at the chilly end. Later when the new cottage is built, I will use it for the workshop. Hate to give a plug for Chinese junk, but sometimes it works.

    Island Mike

    Mower    Posted 05-12-2019 at 18:28:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • And the Chinese government thanks you for your support, comrade. People like you give them ample resources to steal intellectual property from other countries. In the United States alone, the annual IP theft by China is approximately $300 billion to $600 billion.

    Personally, I'll stick to buying products that are Made in the USA whenever possible-just about anything (including everything inside my computer which I built myself) can be sourced from the United States. But if it makes you happy, by all means support China. After all, it saved you a couple bucks.

    bob Kuba (TX)    Posted 05-13-2019 at 14:11:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • From: NeweggBusiness.com
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    Most (if not all) computer components are manufactured (NOT SOURCED) in China!
    "Yes, there are. However, not every part of these components is made in America. Finished components like DRAM and SSDs use domestically-produced NAND wafers. The other parts of the component—circuit boards, controllers, and assembly—are imported from around the globe, mainly China." A lot of Semi-Conductors are made/grown in the US. "Beyond these semiconductors, however, there really is not much in the way of computer hardware manufactured in the United States"
    I do computers (repair and custom build) for a living, so I think I know of what I speak!
    Not much in the way of electrical type components are actually "MADE" in the USA!
    Bob

    Island Mike    Posted 05-13-2019 at 19:36:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • The reason I mentioned bearings in my second post:
    I told the guy in the bearing shop I did not want cheap Chinese. The bearings were for the front wheel of one of my bikes. Told him, US, Canada, Japan, Germany or England. So he sourced some US bearings for me. They lasted about 18 months. Usually bike wheel bearings last many years. Further research revealed the US company was getting their bearings made in China. They hid that fact really well.

    Sometimes when we know the price is too high, as in the German made heaters, the time will come when someone will build and sell for less. Same thing happened with inverters for boats.

    China needs money to pay for the US coal shipped from BC Canada, and to pay for the dock space for their boats. One of them is called Bum Young which always cracks me up.

    Island Mike

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 05-13-2019 at 17:44:14 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I used to have a brother who would only buy Motorcraft parts. Wanted ONLY USA manufactured parts UNTIL one day I pointed out many of his Motorcraft parts were manufactured either in Mexico or Canada.

    Dean    Posted 05-13-2019 at 07:39:27 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • For, perhaps, the first time, I agree with you, Mower.

    Dean

    Bruce Dorsi    Posted 05-12-2019 at 20:14:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • When many American companies are selling products they manufacture in China, what is the incentive to bolster their profits? ....If I can buy the same or similar product of the same origin for a much lower price, why not?

    Briggs & Stratton has moved much of their engine production to China, yet pricing has not been lowered to reflect lower manufacturing costs.

    Many companies care about increasing profit without protecting American jobs.

    Island Mike    Posted 05-12-2019 at 19:45:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thank you comrade.
    Would you be so kind as to direct me to a diesel heater, turbine type, made in the US?
    Once upon a time, during my working life, I imported enough US made boats, both fiberglass and aluminum, big and small, power and sail, plus boat trailers from Shorlandr, Calkins, EZ Loader and others, to get a life time exemption from comments like yours. Would you care to thank me for my contribution.
    Reinell, Bayliner, Hobie, Coleman, Clipper, US Yachts and others certainly did.

    How do you feel about the diesel heater made in Germany that I bought?
    Also once upon a time, the US made more stuff than they do today. Like my Ampzilla power amp, or my Tiller Master auto helm, plus much more.

    Much of the electronic gear on my boat is US sourced. I also refuse to buy made in China bearings.

    People like me helped make America great initially. Talk to your fellow comrades about what happened after that.

    Island Mike

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 05-11-2019 at 11:08:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • When the Briggs wore out on my 1975 snow blower I purchased a Chinese replacement from Harbor Freight.

    Adaption was not a problem. The first year it was pretty tight but broke in and has given several years of good service so far. This year I did not even prime it with starter fluid and it started on third pull every time.

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