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John in Mich    Posted 11-22-2019 at 20:32:17 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Full house generators
  • My son and I are each installing full house generators that are to be drop shipped to my house tomorrow. We bought 20KW Cummins units.
    To have sufficient natural gas supply, I have to have a larger supply line from the curb along with a larger meter. My current supply is 410 feet from the street to the house when we built 35 years ago and cannot meet the potential demand. The new line will be from a 3" main about 100 feet from my meter location.
    Meantime, tomorrow we are doing the plumbing in my house. My son had an easier in house run from a new larger meter.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-23-2019 at 07:23:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Do you guys have big problems with power outages? My B-I-L used to work at Detroit Edison, now DTE. He told me that all the power outage issues could be eliminated with underground cables. Many systems now use fiber optics but Edison didn't want to use underground wires and prevented them from being used. I use to live about 7 miles east from where I live now and we had power failures every time the wind blew different.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Select-O-Speed    Posted 11-26-2019 at 10:42:14 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Edison Trivia (No Hijack of thread intended)
  • A bit of Edison triva for you TPD. When Thomas Alva himself got the contact to illuminate New York City, the Edison Illuminating Company distributed Direct Current underground in the streets to the users. The method of transmission was conduits of Cast Iron pipe with copper strips embedded in Tar poured into the sections as insulation. Needless to say the poured tar contained voids that allowed the current to leak, especially in wet weather. At the time it became customary on a rainy day for spectators to gather on the sidewalks to watch the horse traffic jump and dance around from the leaking electricity on their shoes. Many years later after the conversion to AC, it was reported that a plumber was electrocuted when he was working on what he thought was a stopped up sewer pipe that actually was one of the old Edison conduits that was erroneously left connected to a buildings power service. Even to this day during excavations those old conduits are found. FWIW...SoS.

    John in Mich    Posted 11-27-2019 at 18:41:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • That is interesting. It is a good thing that animal rights groups were not around.

    John in Mich    Posted 11-23-2019 at 19:23:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • No, we do not have frequent outages. Those that we have had we survived by being conservative and sensible. So far, our longest outage has only been a couple of days.
    We have natural gas (thus the generator) and city water. Hot water any time. Flush the toilet anytime. Take a shower anytime.
    We have kept the living area (living room, dinning room and kitchen) at about 70 on the bitterest days by closing all other rooms, lighting 2 kerosene lamps and occassionally lite a gas range burner with a pan of water coming to a boil.
    We have multiple flashlights around the house.
    My 2 main concerns are if we are gone away and power is off for an extended time or if our health changes and we cannot do the things we do now.

    Dean    Posted 11-23-2019 at 09:03:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Underground cables work well for distribution but transmission at high voltage is an entirely different matter.

    Obviously, one cannot supply electrical power using fiber optic cables.

    Dean

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-23-2019 at 10:34:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • the do bury some power cables but all the new fiber optic stuff is for Hi-Speed Internet and communication stuff.


    TPD

    Farmer Dan    Posted 11-23-2019 at 07:45:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Marshall is a funny town. All the internet system is fiber optic and underground. But the electric system is over head aluminum. Squirrels like it for transportation but its not very reliable in bad weather. I have a generac 16kw that has already kicked on once this winter.

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