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2Ntony    Posted 05-05-2020 at 22:41:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Walnut tree sales
  • Does anyone have any experience in selling walnut trees. On my back 12 acres I have 6 or 7 marketable ones. One is a real beauty, 26 DBH and over 30 feet to the first limb. There are 20 more almost marketable and another couple of dozen in a grove that will need another 30 years. At 65, another 30 years is probably beyond my horizon. I know 6 or 7 will probably not excite a big timber buyer. But pleas teach me something about selling trees. Thanx, Tony

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 05-13-2020 at 03:05:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Something to consider is if you have some walnuts probably so do the land owners that butt up to your property. If you talk to them and are will to sell some it might make it marketable for a timber guy to come down and give you a price. I have done this before with other land owners. 2012 I took out 150 trees other land owners 70 trees and 55 trees. All prices were separate but got better deal cause more trees, only one landing and didn't have to load and unload equipment to get to cause properties were adjoined. I know this is on a larger scale but combine if you can get 20 or 30 trees you might draw more interest. Also consider the small timber guy. I took out about 12 walnuts about 15 years ago. One guy, he had a 90hp john deere with a winch. Low impact on the property. Walnut was a good price then not sure how the market is now for it. Another option is to go to Ag center and talk to the forester there. They can recommend a logger who's not a fly by night. And make sure your logger is fully insured and get the paper work to prove it.

    2Ntony    Posted 05-09-2020 at 07:32:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I have one superb tree. Three or four good ones and 40 ish "pecker poles" LOL. We are raising three grand kids. The oldest should ready for college in 7 years, the youngest in 12. I think I'll wait for awhile. The trees should be worth more then and will certainly help with tuition. Thanks to all, I like bouncing ideas off of you all.
    Tony

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 05-11-2020 at 11:32:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • If you had Doug Fir, your largest diameter would be 32 inches for the local mills.
    After that it either becomes a log cabin log or an export. Log cabin logs being in excess of 100'. Your smaller tooth picks will gain in value while the large one might start to rot from the inside out. That you won't know until you whack it.
    Best of luck. Oh, figure 10/15% for taxes. Anything over $10K and the IRS gets notified. You can also contact the Small Woodlands Owners Association.
    Your not zoned SCCA down there so you don't have that to worry about.
    See ya' around some time.

    2Ntony    Posted 05-11-2020 at 21:07:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Bruce, no Douglas Fir. Here in far Western Kentucky, we are predominately Oak/Hickory with assorted other trees. The PO timbered all of the white oak about 12 years ago. Lots of nice Hickory now. I'll look forward to the "some time".

    Tony

    RockyMO    Posted 05-09-2020 at 00:01:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • There are walnut trees and then there are Walnut Trees. No logger is going to be interested in six run of the mill walnut trees. It will cost more money to bring in the equipment to get them than he will make from them. Six veneer trees however is another story. Prices range from $30 per tree to $10k per tree, it all depends on what they are. The only way to truly know what they are is to cut them down. It is impossible to stand them back up so things get a bit tricky. Check with your state forestry or conservation department. Missouri has great services for landowners and foresters will work with you on marking trees for sale as well as for thinning and timber sale. All at a zero cost to you. Other states may or may not have that service. Shop for loggers and base your knowledge not just on them and their track record but that of their buyers as well. If the trees are healthy and not in decline, the standard thought is to let them grow. I have 40 of them suitable for market out of hundreds, at least half are veneer logs. My forester monitors a couple times per year and so far says to let them grow. He feels they put on $1000 per inch of diameter, well worth waiting for. I also have a good friend who is a logger and owns a commercial saw mill. His good walnuts go to other buyers once he gets them out of the woods. He tells me to wait as well since the price has been declining since Trump started the trade war with China. Best of luck to you but in reality, they are probably not as valuable as you may have been led to believe.

    steveVa    Posted 05-07-2020 at 09:26:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Use a timber cruiser professional.
    Get multiple bids and have a clear contract that clearly spells out cleanup etc.
    Get your money up front!
    You can also trade for some walnut boards. But get your $ first.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 05-07-2020 at 07:13:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Here in SE Iowa my farm had never been commercially harvested. I used a Forester (https://geodeforestry.com/foresters) to manage the sale.

    He walked the land, marked and counted the trees, listed, advertised, and selected the buyer. Bob takes those trees who's removal would benefit the timber, are diseased or damaged. In other words make it a benefit to the timber.

    Yes, I paid them a commission but it was well worth it. Did not have to worry about the character of the buyer or the terms of the sale.

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 05-07-2020 at 08:14:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • In these parts those are referred o as
    "Timber Cruiser"
    The state forestry dept might be the last one you desire to wake up.
    Hope your slash pile is not too large. Good ol' DEQ might get their hackles up with large fines for generating that much smoke in the PDX area.

    Dave Smith    Posted 05-06-2020 at 07:13:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Put out bids, Don't sell to the first one that comes along.
    There are many buyers here in Western NY. Find out what
    they use (horses, timber jacks) and be sure they sign
    a contract and clean up and do not rut the he!! out of
    the land. The price of lumber is way down from what it
    was a few years ago.

    Dave <*)))><

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 05-06-2020 at 10:56:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Two years ago Canada was having their own environmental problems and stopped harvesting timber. The companies all came south and the timber prices were up 25%.
    Last year was a decent year to harvest and this year not so good.
    I cannot speak to Oregon "Cap and Trade", "Carbon Footprint" or the mills scheduled to close this year. I can say, the price is likely to drop again. Housing starts might bring it up again but that is a shot in the dark in light of the current regime at the state capitol.
    Don't know of any mills around Tualatin and Stimson out at Hagg lake is also scheduled to close due to flooding out the valley to make a larger lake.
    Be glad you don't have to replant at 200 trees per acre.
    Figuring a 30% loss of trees means that you replant 300 per acre to keep your forest deferral tax rate. Then if all the trees survive you get to do a thinning operation after a few years.
    Hope the boys and girls at city hall don't get concerned about missing timber along the river bank.

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 05-06-2020 at 01:37:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yeah. You go on Craigslist and you will find walnut tree buyers. Uh...
    There is also a hardwood buyer on St Helens Rd just out of the northwest industrial area in Portland. Yobi (?) hardwoods comes to mind.
    Give the link a call and they should be able to steer you in the right direction.

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