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Farmer Dan    Posted 12-19-2018 at 11:29:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Bump stocks
  • as a rule I don't post here because I do not like politics. But this issue hits close to home. I am all for the 2nd Ammendment and the right to have guns but... I am not in favor of any Joe Blow on the street having what is classified as a machine gun. An M16 is illegal because it fires full auto, so why would an AR10 that fires full auto be any different? Keep all the assault rifles but ban the illegal ones.

    Lets see how much crap this stirs up LOL.

    Ed Gooding (VA)    Posted 12-19-2018 at 18:51:43 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Personally, I think bump stocks are crap. I bought one at a gun show, put it on one of my AR's and used it for a weekend. Massive waste of expensive ammo at the price of accuracy. I threw it in the trash after the weekend. Yep, it was fun to play with for a weekend, but this is not a product for a serious shooter in my view.

    If the guy in Vegas had shot semi-auto with decent optics, he would have killed far more people than he did. As a Gunny, you know this.

    My fear about this ban is the next step is to ban high capacity magazines and I'm not inclined to give the politicians any momentum in depriving us of our Constitutional rights.

    J52J    Posted 12-20-2018 at 14:34:20 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • "Pittsburgh Mayor Pushes Firearm Confiscation Orders, Gun and Magazine Bans"

    It starts in One State and will spread like a wild fire.

    J52J/Jess

    Vito    Posted 12-19-2018 at 18:42:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Vegas job was a false flag operation to deliberately get bump stocks banned. If you were the government would you want the citizenry armed like your military?

    JMHO

    Vito

    steveVa    Posted 12-19-2018 at 16:39:57 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Bump stocks
  • I dont have any use for a bump stock or any AR type of weapon. So I do not have a strong opinion on that either way.
    People who break laws by shooting someone would likely break the law of owning something illegal as well. But do we want to make it easy for them? Dont know.
    Then there is the bigger issue of rights of the general population. I dont really want to be around if the general population needs to rise up against the gov..
    The govt. will surely be better armed. Dont know.
    Then there is the bigger issue of who keeps or looses their rights to owm weapons.
    When we here about some repeat criminal being on the street and owning weapons, that is what bugs me. The lack of enforcement of existing laws. Adding more laws to enforce wont free up the enforcers.
    I think we need better prevention and education and Less divisivness. The dems create the divisions as I see it by refusing to accept election defeats and they actually preach dissension.

    mthomas    Posted 12-19-2018 at 12:31:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Machine guns are not illegal. Ones manufactured after a certain date are illegal. Anyone over 21 with a clean record, US citizenship and money may own one. The jackass in Vegas probably could have bought one if he wished.

    I do not own, nor do I want an AR type firearm. I was so happy to give my M16 back, I never want another one.

    That said, a classic way to argue is the reduction to absurdity. Meaning this. The federal government is determined to take or compel distruction of private property with out compensation due to a determination that is arguably wrong reguarding the function of a bumpstock.

    Reduced to the absurd, substitute some other item in place of bumpstock. Your car for example. Car exhaust has been used by governments to kill citizens. It is illegal in this country to kill people with car exhaust. You legally purchased your car, but some unelected official has decided car exhaust is illegal as it may be used to kill people.

    Rather than take away your car as that would cause a huge uproar, the same as trying to take firearms would, the unelected official has decided to outlaw garden hoses as they are the method of converting your car into a killing machine. You now have 90 days to turn in your hoses or you become a felon. No hose compensation is to be provided for your legally purchase hose.

    This is not only stupid and absurd, it is government over reach.

    Dean    Posted 12-19-2018 at 12:59:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Bingo.

    Dean

    ArtMo    Posted 12-20-2018 at 12:19:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I shall "Bingo" that a second time! Biggest flaw in our society is the total lack of responsibility for any behavior. When a convicted murderer gets a five year sentence, there is something seriously wrong!

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