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Jack - Iowa    Posted 08-14-2021 at 06:52:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • 860
  • Need advice.

    Is a 860 big enough to handle a large round bale on a bale spear?

    I'm thinking it does not set high enough, even if the hydraulics are strong enough.

    Anyone with experience?

    Thanks,

    Jack

    Ultradog MN    Posted 08-17-2021 at 04:58:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 860
  • Long post.
    I have never lifted a round bale in my life so take what I say with a grain of salt.
    An 800 would do it in a pinch but I wouldn't want to do it on a regular basis.
    I've always thought the 8XX and 4 cyl 4000s were light in the rear end for the power they had. Kind of like the old saying about an alligator mouth with a mocking bird ass. If you are a flatlander you'd be okay but this would be one instance where I would definately use sway bars.
    I run a 3000 and have run a 1K lb bush hog on it for a few years. It really is too much for my tractor. I broke a couple of check chain brackets before I wised up and used sway bars. It is a bit scary to have that much weight suddenly shift to one side on such a light tractor. A 3000 is heavier back there than an 800. And the center of gravity of a round bale is much higher than my bush hog is normally carried.
    The Hundreds are great tractors but like anything else they have their limitations.
    If I was going to feed large rounds on a regular basis or lived where it wasn't flat like a pool table I would want a bigger machine. I would look for a 3 cylinder 4000. Just few more ponies than an 800 but cat I/II three point, nearly 1500 lbs heavier and a Much stouter rear end. I am hoping to retire my 3000 from bush hogging duty this year and hook it to a 4000 that I've put together over the last few years. 3000 and an 800 are both too light to be hefting that much weight.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 08-17-2021 at 06:45:51 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 860
  • Thank you for posting. I have rolled round bales but cannot say I ever lifted one either. You re-enforced my thinking. Too light and too low in my opinion.

    Thanks,

    Jack

    Lynn Patrick    Posted 08-17-2021 at 08:10:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 860
  • Haven't tried it w/an 800, but have w/my Fordson Major & it was VERY light on the front end - had to steer w/brakes. According to Tractordata (I know - they are ALWAYS correct info!) an 860 weighs 3400 lbs, my Major weighs 5300 lbs.
    There is also a huge difference in how much those bales weigh! The ones I was moving were from a large JD baler & are HEAVY! My SIL had a smaller baler & could move them w/an Allis D14.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 08-17-2021 at 14:14:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 860
  • That's when you put a spear on both ends.

    FYI: The jack is gone.

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