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robert carr what is    Posted 01-12-2022 at 20:32:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • tractor
  • bought Jan/11/2022 sold to me as a 8n 1950 does not look like a 8n the engine casting # 8n-6015-c / Trany is 3 speeds rear wheels are 9n or 2n? the only stamped # on block is c586 can anybody help me?

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 01-13-2022 at 06:14:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • First FORD Tractor Robert? Welcome aboard then! Sounds like you have a mutt --- 8N block, 9N guts. 6015 is a casting number. You need to look behind the oil filter housing for the engine block serial number. Means nothing really, ALL 9N & 2N blocks have the "9N" prefix in s/n and all 8N's have the "8N" prefix in the s/n. 9N,2N, and early 8N's use the front mount distributor so swapping out blocks was common practice. The s/n's would have a STAR symbol before and after as well, and, also, means relatively nothing nowadays. There was an engine casting ID Date Code tag on the starter pocket attached when they cast the sand casting at the Rouge. Also means nothing today - only ID's the date the block was cast, nothing more. Newbie or oldie, the best investment one can make for your 'new' FORD Tractor are the ESSENTIAL MANUALS. Get them, read them, and before you turn the key or turn a wrench an before you start yanking parts off and replacing. Most components on FORD vehicles were designed to be rebuilt over and over. You will want to list this as Rule #1. New parts are made by the Chi-Coms today and many are just plain junk. You did the first step ID'ing the 3-SPD Trans - only the 9N and 2N had a 3-SPD, the 8N released the 4-SPD, but we can't tell you which wheels you have without seeing the tractor. Also, the OEM 9N/2N never had running boards but many farmers made or bought aftermarket ones to mount so don't use running boards or pegs as an ID marker either. There is a lot more, more important items to the tractor to know about. Front mount or side mount distributor (late 8Ns had the side), steering box, and the electrical system is most important. OEM FORDs were/are 6V/POS GRN but many have been changed over to 12V. The 9N/2N used the same electrical setup from 1940 on and the 8N used a totally different electrical setup. 6V or 12V, both have their Pros and Cons but no matter which you use but if not wired correctly for that system, will result in non-starting issues. The front mount distributor is one item that has become a mystery to some but it doesn’t have to be as long as one reads the manuals and does their homework. More intense homework is required on your part. We have many documents in our HOW-TO's Forum (see red menu bar at top?) and many scanned manuals for free download. You can also search our ARCHIVE forum where you can find all the old posts – just plug in a keyword or words and you can find prior posts on every topic ever brought up here. There is also a good document on ID’g your FORD N tractor with model years and changes made. John Smith had a web site but now is found on the F/FCA site --- see LINK at bottom. Our HOW-TO’s is a wealth of information you won’t find anywhere else on these older FORDs, also for free download. One important document to save in your folder is under ELECTRICAL, and is “WIRING PICTOGRAMS by JMOR”. He has put together all the correct ways to wire these N’s whether 6V or 12V. Also, search for a download of “75 Tips For N-Owners” by Bruce(VA). Best to park the tractor, hide the key, acquire all the Essential Manuals and documents, go to John Smiths tractor ID site, and start reading before you do anything else. There is much to learn before turning the key, and it is a wonderful hobby, some say an obsession, to get into.





    Tim Daley(MI)

    steveVa    Posted 01-13-2022 at 00:20:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • does it have floor boards or foot pegs?
    proof meter? most likely replacement motor.
    floor boards = 8N. 3 speed = 9N or 2N. look close for 4th gear on top of trans. hard to see sometimes.

    robert carr    Posted 01-13-2022 at 04:28:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • has foot pegs. How can I tell the year of the engine and the year of the tractor to order parts?

    Ed Gooding (VA)    Posted 01-13-2022 at 05:19:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Ford/Fordson Collector's Assoc.
  • Robert, there is a section at the Ford/Fordson Collector's Assoc. website that identifies and walks through the changes from the '39 9N through the '52 8N. Comparing what you have to what you see on their site will help you narrow in on your model and year.

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