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Michford    Posted 09-15-2013 at 21:36:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Ford Tractor Division bought out the Sherman Brothers out in 1960. Does anybody have any info on all of the different aftermarket products that Sherman made for Ford tractors through the years? I know the auxiliary transmissions are probably the most well known product, but how many different items did they produce? Thanks, Pat

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 07-07-2014 at 05:43:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Wasn't there a sherman hand brake for the 9n/2n?

    Kirk

    Farmer Dan    Posted 07-07-2014 at 09:31:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Yes, a handlever for the left brake.

    Michford    Posted 09-21-2013 at 13:08:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Ed, I don't suppose you have any color brochures of any Sherman Napco products do you? Attached is an advertisement from a December 1958 Progressive Farmer magazine.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-21-2013 at 09:03:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The Sherman Manufacturing Co. supplied many products, specifically for Ford Tractors, with back-hoes, loaders, excavating equipment, and such being big items. The company was located in Royal Oak, Michigan, on 14 Mile Rd. I recall the building well with the 'Sherman Products' name on the front of building. The Dearborn Motors Corporation world headquarters was a mile up the road (Coolidge Hwy.) at 2500 E. Maple Rd. (15 Mile Rd.)in Birmingham, MI. The area was interesting because it bordered on three cities -Birmingham west of Coolidge, Troy to the north and east, and Royal Oak to the south and southeast. I grew up on Leroy Avenue in Clawson, MI, 2-1/2 miles from Dearborn Motors, so I know the area well, though nowadays everything is long gone and completely changed. From Maple and Coolidge, you could go south one mile to 14 Mile Rd. There you had no choice -turn right or left. When you turned right, you immediately passed under the Grand Trunk Western Railroad trestle and Sherman Products was right there on the right. The name and building stood for a long time -perhaps into the seventies because when I was 15, I caddied at the Birmingham Country Club 2-3 miles west of there, past Woodward Ave. I often would hitch hike to and from the club and sometimes would walk past the Sherman building. Whether walking or driving past, I always would peer over to see what was in the back storage yard there. Yellow, blue, and sometimes red backhoes and loaders could be seen. The Sherman Brothers were once partnered with Harry Ferguson selling waterloo and later, Fordson tractors. When the 9N Tractor was born, the handshake agreement was such that Henry Ford would manufacture the tractor and harry Ferguson would be the distribution company also in charge of procuring implements and selling those as well. The new distribution company was called the Ferguson-Sherman Mfg. Co. In the early '40's, the Sherman Bros. had a falling out with Harry Ferguson and dissolved their partnership. Ferguson continued alone simply as the 'Ferguson Mfg. Co.' up until '47 when Henry II fired him and he went over to England to begin his TE20 tractor production. There are three phases of the Ferguson/Ford story as stated here. In England, all new implements were built too for the TE20 and subsequent models that followed. An interesting side note here. In December, 2005, I had a telephone conversation with Mr. Harold Brock which he graciously allowed me to tape record and of which I still have the cassette tapes, about 1-1/2 hours worth. In June of 2006 I was honored and privileged to have met him in person and talked further about Ford Tractor production. When he asked me where I was from, I told him Michigan and that I had grown up in Clawson, only 2-1/2 miles from the Dearborn Headquarters in Birmingham. He was fascinated and told me that Charlie Sorenson, Henry Fords' second in command (excluding the thug Harry Bennett) and the brains behind most all of Ford projects up until he retired, had a farm in Clawson. I believe I know where this would have been because growing up in the '60's as kids, the whole western part of Clawson was fields and woods. We'd get lost there all day playing army as 'Combat', about WWII in Germany, was our favorite TV show. Main roads were two-lanes, some still dirt tracks. There were a few abandoned farms in that part of the town so I believe that is where Sorenson had his farm. Out of all the greats in history, "Cast Iron" Charlie is the foremost person I personally would like to go back in time and spend the day with.


    Tim Daley(MI)

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    Michford    Posted 09-21-2013 at 12:56:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Tim, thanks for the personal memories. There is so much collective knowledge on this board. Thanks, Pat

    Ed Gooding (VA)    Posted 09-20-2013 at 16:07:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Their backhoes were used quite a bit back then - they called them "Diggers".

    They also made a front end loader and a fork lift.

    For accessories, they made the high-compression cylinder head mentioned by Dan:

    They made a live PTO clutch kit:

    They had a shock-proof steering accessory:

    You mentioned their auxiliary transmissions, which consisted of a Step-Down (low), Step-Up (high) and a combo (high-low) tranny, but some folks may not be aware of their reverser tranny for loader work:

    Michford    Posted 09-21-2013 at 12:54:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks for posting the color brochures, it is great to see the variety of products that were developed and offered for these tractors. Thanks, Pat

    Farmer Dan    Posted 09-19-2013 at 22:22:46 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • They also made a high compression head claimed to add 10 more hp. Still wish I could find one.

    Kirk-NJ    Posted 07-07-2014 at 05:59:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I missed buying one a few years ago at a swap meet by about 15 minutes. The guy did't know what he had. He had them laying there with a bunch of car parts. He sold them to a friend of a friend of mine for $10 each. He had two of them. After years of trying to buy one he agreed to sell one my friend. He bought one from him for $75.

    Kirk

    don b    Posted 03-06-2014 at 13:04:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Dan.....when we restored Dusty's 1939 9n......we put it back all original except we installed a Sherman aluminum head on it.We did this because we had the head and folks kept trying to buy it,so to keep folks from asking to buy it,we installed it on the tractor.The tractor just sits in the showroom and the increased hp doesn't make any diff ,but folks don't try to buy the head any more.Good luck on finding one. don b

    Farmer Dan    Posted 03-06-2014 at 14:44:41 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Could you take a picture of that head for me?

    Ed Gooding (VA)    Posted 03-16-2014 at 13:05:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Here are some pics and info that I have, Dan:

    An original ad for one:

    Farmer Dan    Posted 03-16-2014 at 18:08:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks Ed. We see 9N and 2N heads for sale on ebay everyday and I've always wondered what are the odds of somebody selling one and not knowing what it is? Having never seen one in person I'm not sure if I could spot one in a crowd.

    don b    Posted 03-06-2014 at 15:00:08 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Dan....it looks like the pic Ed posted.Sorry I posted in the History section.....forgot where I was reading. don b

    Michford    Posted 09-21-2013 at 12:57:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Dan, I'll keep my eyes peeled. I've been fortunate to stumble across some scare stuff. Thanks, Pat

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 09-21-2013 at 06:39:27 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • One recently sold on fleabay for over $500

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