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Dan Chisler    Posted 06-01-2017 at 13:21:41 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I was all set to do some post hole drilling on my bad 9n then found the bad leak at the lift arm mount . I am pretty sure one must remove the trumpet to be able to tighten the two bolts . Question is it possible to tighten them by using a inpact air gun ? One i know has a cotter pin threw a crown or castle nut . so that one probably won't tighten .So i put the 9n in the project for some other time garage and put the post hole digger on the 8n . If there are any tricks to tighten those two bolts ( one the axle for lift are and the other casting mount smaller bolt .Please let me know ...also How bad a job is it to remove the trumpet to get at those bolts in case i have to do the job the right way ?

    Farmer Brown    Posted 06-03-2017 at 19:43:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • My right side was very loose and leaked. When I had the pto shaft out last fall to rebuild, I was able to access the lift arm nut thru the large hole which the pto shaft resided. Due to the shaft loosening so much, the cotter pin was sheared off. I was able to get my arm in there with a box wrench and had a helper tighten the snot out of it. It has been holding tight so far with no cotter pin and no leaks.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-04-2017 at 11:21:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Wow that is an interesting tid bit . Now how much trauma is it to get the pto shaft out ? Does it come out easy once the back 4 bolts are removed ?This is what I ws hopeing to find out some short cut .Maybe a cotter pin could be finessed in as well . Ford probably did not like the chance of that nut getting caught up in the ring and pinyon .I am going to study on that . Many thanks farmer Brown .I discovered the leak after reading one of the manuals warning not to ever loosen those nuts or you may get a bad grease leak . I thought it leaking from the muffler mounting bracket i installed .Then noticed how loose that mount was.

    Farmer Brown    Posted 06-06-2017 at 06:25:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Very easy to remove pto shaft. Just need a new gasket and park tractor nose down in ditch so hydraulic fluid stays in or you can just allow it to drain in clean pan to reuse. It just pulls out, provided it is not twisted.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-06-2017 at 11:23:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Wow perfect the oil is all ready out it won't stay in and i drained it out to do the fix .It sounds like a quick fix ,Thanks so much Farmer Brown .

    Farmer Brown    Posted 06-06-2017 at 06:29:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Forgot, yes remove four bolts and it pulls out. Be prepaired, that gear case holds several gallons of oil!

    Charles(N.C.)    Posted 06-01-2017 at 15:11:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Remove,,lighten all that you can from the trumpets because these are heavy.You can remove the left (sitting on the seat)trumpet with the axel left inside if you have a way to hoist and hold it,,,you can hurt yourself BAD trying to do this by hand.While you tighten the left side you can reach through and tighten the other side without it's removal.Be sure to block and secure the right side so it won't roll or tip.You could leave the rightside tire on for this.There is a special way to replace the trumpet gasket.Others may chime in to help.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-01-2017 at 15:53:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • left side okay but remove left trumpet to get ar right side okay . Am i correct there is a cotter pin and castle nut on one of the bolts the smaller one ? assuming i can deal with that once left side is off .My trumpet had rtv and no gasket .So left side tire must be removed yes no ?

    Ed Gooding (VA)    Posted 06-02-2017 at 10:59:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Here's a very good way to deal with this fix:

    Here's what it will look like inside:

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-02-2017 at 12:30:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Ed Thanks so much for the great pictures i am saving them .I see the one nut to tighten how do i tighten the other one ? I don't even see it in the picture .Both are loose and just turn when you turn them . I have put pressure on the lift arm to bind the axle pin then try to tighten but it still turned. I didn't try an impact wrench .slap tork seemed to help but still loose.the nut in the picture I am assumeing is the smaller of the two fasteners not the axle is that correct ?
    What is that load leveler ? a tool store item ?

    Ed Gooding (VA)    Posted 06-02-2017 at 14:53:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Yep, you can get a load leveler at Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc.

    Very handy with a shop crane, especially for a job like this when you need the trumpet lined up properly to attach it.

    See GasPump's note below about my pic being for an 8N - apologies for any confusion caused.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-03-2017 at 00:29:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks a million no oligopolies needed I should have thought my self when the color was red and not gray ..I will get a leveler great idea.

    Gaspump    Posted 06-02-2017 at 14:23:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Dan the pics are of an 8N, they only have one pin and nut. Your 9N does have an additional stud but procedures almost the same. Once yours is apart it will become obvious as what to do.

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-03-2017 at 00:22:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Good deal thanks . left side off ...and two nuts will be seen on the 9n then perfect ..

    Charles (N.C.)    Posted 06-01-2017 at 16:50:49 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Left side tire remove or you might wind up in the hospitol.Leaving the axel inside the trumpet causes a lot of weight too but if you have a helper (friend,hoist etc.)things go better.To tighten the lower link support shaft yes you will have to remove the pin from the castlenut and yes put it back,,both sides.Now you are working with heavy parts so make a plan.A gasket should be used.My choice.These go on (1)way only.Now,,,,,do you have the I&T,FO4 Ford N Repair Manual? "GET IT".

    Dan Chisler    Posted 06-01-2017 at 20:33:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Okay if a gasket is to be used then the trumpet must come all the way off i would assume ...Yes i have every repair manual made for the tractors . It looks like the tractor will have to go into waiting mode for a while . until i finish the clutch replace job in the dozer and i get the shop building built this year or next . then i can set it up on blocks inside and do the job correctly along with the transmission bearing replace job . Maybe i can find a Mobil tractor mechanic that wants to make some money .Do they exist ? Thanks for the response Charles I really appreciate it .

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