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Tony Sanchez [OR]    Posted 11-11-2017 at 12:02:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 9N or 2N ?
  • I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't find this particular condition.
    On the engine block it says: 9N247211. But the 11's look like little T's.
    Some of the features show that it's a 2N. The left side Trumped drive housing says:
    2N 4015 A2 and the link arms are a solid and not a cast.
    Did someone replace the engine with a 9N? And if so why go with an older engine rather than a newer one? I guess I'm asking for miracles with a machine that has probably exchanged hands many times and is older than anything I own. I want to get this right because I plan on a full restoration in all gray one day. That is if all gray applied to this year. I wish I could post up pictures but this photobucket thing isn't working.
    Thanks
    Tony

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-11-2017 at 22:14:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 9N or 2N ?
  • FORD used special hand stamps to identify engine blocks for all vehicles after they were assembled and passed QC Inspection testing. The STAR (*)symbol was used before and after the number to designate steel cylinder sleeves were used. In mid-8N production they changed to cast iron sleeves and thus the symbol used was now a diamond (◊). FORD also used the capital letter 'I' for the numeral 1 and a lower case letter "b" for the numeral 6 and its inverse for the numeral 9. It is possible you are not seeing the bottom slash of the "I". Remember these were hand stamped and often weakly. ALL 9N and 2N tractors used the "9N" prefix code -there is no such thing as a '2N' serial number. Parts were different. When a significant change was made to a part, it would carry the new prefix on the first model to use it thus some have 9N prefixes, some have 2N and some have 8N prefixes. There are a few parts on the Hundred Series tractors with 9N and 2N prefixes. Your s/n *9N-2472II* is a 1946 2N Model. Also, ALL 9N and 2N models were painted Ford M2888 Dark Gray.

    FORD ENGINE BLOCK HAND STAMPS:

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 11-11-2017 at 15:25:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 9N or 2N ?
  • Fun part comes when you decide you like position control hydraulics that the 8N has.
    That can be done with a donor 8N and swapping the pump and top cover. Once you get the 8N, you will probably find it in too good a condition to become a donor.
    then begins the slippery slope. After the second tractor, you finally figure that each implement should have it's own tractor to eliminate the time changing things over.
    Only one machine so far??
    Once you get it restored you can probably get it into the local July 4 parades and such. Steam up in Brooks in July/August. Might see you there. . .

    Tony Sanchez [OR]    Posted 11-11-2017 at 18:05:24 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 9N or 2N ?
  • Ha very funny Bruce. I'm still beating on this poor thing. Can't think about any options at the moment. Good to know finally what it really is. My in law said it was a 9N 1942. I can't find many differences between the two. Yea maybe some day I will see you at a local parade. Thanks again for the help Yall.
    Tony

    carl nny    Posted 11-11-2017 at 13:06:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 9N or 2N ?
  • 9n and 2n both begin with 9n serial no.. 9n 247211 would be a late 1946 2n. As far as the little"T's", they used the letter "I" as a "1".

    Hope this helps.

    carl nny

    Tony Sanchez [OR]    Posted 11-11-2017 at 14:23:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 9N or 2N ?
  • Good to know it's a 46. So many question with these old machines.
    Thanks
    Tony

    Rustyal    Posted 11-11-2017 at 12:39:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 9N or 2N ?
  • That could be a 1950 engine block. So, the 9N or 2N has an 8N block. Then you have to start investigation to get an approximate year model.

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