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Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 15:42:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • My dad donated a 9n ford front coil tractor to me.
    Last summer, I got it running. He had replaced the charginh system to a three wire prestolite system. coil and battery(all 12 volt system).

    I replaced the battery and coil to a 12 volt system. Ran great when I did the replacements.

    It ran for about an hour. Was idleing when it shut off. Not it won't turn over.

    Any help with what to do next?

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-22-2017 at 20:08:06 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I don't know what a '3-wire prestolite' system is, but something nags at me that could be your root cause problem. You meant to say front mount distributor, not front coil. We have a ton of good info in our HOW-TO's forum and one is this excellent document put together by long time member JMOR on all the CORRECT possible ways to wire these old N's. SEE LINK below and download a copy for yourself to use in the shop. Something shorted out and/or drained your battery. How old is it? As suggested take to a starter shop and get it bench tested. It must sustain a charge under load and they have the test equipment to do it. Next will be to go thru ALL the wiring using the Pictogram that fits your setup. If you have lights, I suggest you disconnect them from the circuit temporarily to eliminate them from the equation. If you do need anew battery many suggest a good brand, not the cheap bargain house brands. It wouldn't hurt to invest in the correct manuals too for your 9N. The I&T F-04 manual and the '39-'53 Master Parts Catalog are essential. Copies are sold at most all Ford Tractor Part suppliers.

    FORD 9N OWNER ESSENTIAL MANUALS:


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    steveVa    Posted 11-22-2017 at 18:26:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Could be a dead battery, could be a bad solenoid, could be a bad starter. Could be a bad starter switch. Did you try jumper cables? Jump the solenoid? Check the battery cables, check the main ground. Check the starter. Check back...

    Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 19:20:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Will try all those suggestions. Thanks.

    R Geiger    Posted 11-22-2017 at 16:14:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Did it have oil pressure when it was running?

    Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 16:31:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Donot know as father is deceased

    R Geiger    Posted 11-22-2017 at 16:54:12 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • You said it ran for an hour, was it showing oil pressure then? can you turn it over by hand? If its was running with no oil pressure, it may have seized up the engine.
    If the engine is not stuck then listen to what Bruce is saying.

    Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 17:54:02 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Was not present when it was running.

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 11-22-2017 at 15:46:44 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Won't turn over, as in you press the starter button and the starter does not turn the engine over?

    Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 16:33:22 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • yes

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 11-22-2017 at 16:44:29 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • If it was running and stopped, and the battery will not turn the starter over when you press the starter button, that tells you that the battery is no longer electrically connected to the tractor. Get out your meter and start looking for the absence of battery voltage. HINT: check the connection between the negative battery post and the tractor chassis first. If you have trouble tracing the circuit, check the wiring diagrams in the "how-to's".

    Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 17:55:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Have 11 vots of power

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 11-22-2017 at 18:07:28 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Your battery is totally dead at 11.89 volts.

    See tip # 60 to charge the battery.

    And tip # 49 to check it after it's fully charged.

    If the battery checks out ok, then move on to find out why it went dead.

    Carl    Posted 11-22-2017 at 18:24:34 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks for all your help

    grizz    Posted 11-22-2017 at 17:21:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Is there anything happening when you hit the button as in a click or are we talking no noise at all?

    Carl    Posted 11-28-2017 at 20:01:55 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks to all who helped me troubleshoot my starting problems. Turned out to be a discharged battery.

    Another question? When changing to a 12 volt system, Do you have to change from a positive ground 6 volt system to a negatve ground?

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