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Acorn Farm, Downeast    Posted 12-19-2017 at 13:19:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • grease front axle pivot ?
  • On my 8N I see no way to grease the front axle pivot pin and bushing. I find no info. in the "Ford Shop Manual" or other books. This bothers me a whole lot ! How do you lubricate this important point?

    Ultradog MN    Posted 12-21-2017 at 08:26:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Kinda like using CaCl in your tires.
    Guys complain they only got 70 years out of a set of rims because of the stuff. Now guys want to lube the front pivot so they don't have to install a new pin and bushing every 40 years.
    To be effective you'd want to lube the bottom side of the axle anyway. Dunno how you'd do that.
    Myself, I think Ford did a pretty good job of engineering these tractors to last - It's 78 years now since the 9Ns were introduced. So they don't need me coming along second guessing them.
    But it's your tractor...

    Acorn Farm    Posted 12-21-2017 at 09:05:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I haven't seen so much excitement since the porch roof fell on the picnic table! Guess I'll leave it alone. Thanks, all.

    ZANE    Posted 12-20-2017 at 11:44:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I know for a fact that if you want the balls on the ends of the lift arms to wear our prematurely just grease them real good every time you think of it. When I was at the dealership in the early to mid 60 I saw several ones that had been greased and the balls would fall out unless they were tied in when no implement was attached to them.

    So go ahead and grease that front axle pivot pin.

    Zane

    Dollar Bill    Posted 12-20-2017 at 07:53:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I'm with TOH - Install a Zerk and lube it periodically to push out any grit that may have gotten in.

    36 coupe    Posted 12-20-2017 at 07:17:00 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Ferguson tractors had a grease fitting on the pivot pin.You could buy a Ferguson if you insist on a greasable pivot pin.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 12-20-2017 at 06:29:46 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The front axle center support bushing, p/n 2N-3039, is listed in the Dennis Carpenter with the notation, "...Solid, Without Oil Hole..." -was there ever an oil hole? I would think that they are made of sintered bronze now and are oil impregnated for self lubrication, maybe, I'm speculating. I think the comment about not greasing parts like the ball sockets was by the 8N considered common knowledge. Grease will attract dirt like a magnet to ferrous material. Once sand and dirt get into a ball socket it will just act like an abrasive grinding compound. I would think if Ford Engineers thought the pivot kingpin needed to be lubed often they would have added a Zerk somehow. I've only replaced my Kingpin and bushing once in the 25 years I've had my 8N. On the tractors with a front mount distributor, a sure test of a worn kingpin and bushing is when the axle swings up enough to break/crack the #2 cap nipple. It's your tractor, do what you feel you must, and if adding a lube point on the pivot pin is your concern, then do it. Are you having problems with it now?

    Tim Daley(MI)

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 12-19-2017 at 22:25:31 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The 1940 9N Instruction Book actually says "Do not lubricate ball and socket joints or the pins of the linkage." At the bottom of that same page it says "Do not lubricate where no provision has been made for lubrication." However, I cannot find those two "do not lubricate" statements in my 1948 or 1950 Operator's Manuals. The section on lubricants in the 8N manuals starts with the statement "Clean lubricants prevent self destruction in all mechanical devices." It seems obvious to me that someone realized those earlier "Do not lubricate" statements were not exactly right. Wonder how many rusty frozen parts it took to figure that out? Where there is no provision for grease, I generally apply grease to the surfaces before they are assembled. I'd rather have grease and dirt in there than water and dirt. Even better, add a grease fitting, and hit it with the grease gun once in a while.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 12-19-2017 at 17:47:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Drill and tap a hole in the top of the axle for a zerk fitting.

    TOH

    Charles (N.C.)    Posted 12-19-2017 at 13:46:38 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • As Bruce(VA)has stated ,,no fitting.Long ago that bothered me also but after some thought I believe it would be a place where sand etc would collect and work like sand paper.Just my thoughts about this area.

    R Geiger    Posted 12-19-2017 at 13:42:59 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Not meant to be greased. grease holds dirt.

    Bruce (VA)    Posted 12-19-2017 at 13:35:27 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Unless you want to disassemble it and install a grease fitting, you don't.

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