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Kimberly    Posted 06-10-2018 at 10:39:16 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 8N Headlamp Wings
  • I found these headlamp wings on fleabay but they are solid. Are these original? I though the wings were made differently. I want to put the headlamps back on the tractor.

    K.LaRue-VA    Posted 06-11-2018 at 08:04:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • The ones in the ebay ad appear to be molded plastic. Those are certainly not original.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 06-11-2018 at 10:50:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 8N Headlamp Wings
  • Either that or aluminum -I've seen them too before - aftermarket Cheena crap...Zinc got too costly I guess.

    I'd part with one of my original pairs, including reinforcement plates, or suggest a used set off fleabay, or better yet, just buying anew set from Just8Ns. They sell the Carpenter made parts. that's all I'm going to say on this topic -time to move on -we've given plenty of info and opinions.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 06-10-2018 at 11:08:27 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 8N Headlamp Wings
  • What do you mean by "solid" and "made differently"? You will also bed the backing plates -see LINK. The headlamp winged medallions were used from the first 9Ns, 1939 thru the early 8Ns, 1949. Early 9N wings were cast iron, then zinc. What year do you have? Your doglegs will have two punch-outs for the lights, unless there were already lights on it at one time and the punch outs removed. Early 9N smooth Dog legs had no punch-outs. Lighting kits were changed in mid-1949 and the lamps were now more rounded housings with the round-cup mounting piece, and the doglegs only had one punch-out. Reinforcement plates require a short hex bolt to secure them to the wings. Plates mount on the inside of doglegs. Wings are specific LH and RH, plates are not. Tract-O-Lite headlights have a hollow 1/2-20 special bolt the allows the wire to feed thru and lamps bolt up to the wings. Wire to the switch -get out your 39-53 MPC, as shown -not to the ignition switch. Look in HOW-TO's for more wiring info. If you need backing plates, wings, and T-O-L headlamps, I have some. Email is open.


    Tim Daley(MI)

    Kimberly    Posted 06-10-2018 at 12:16:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: 8N Headlamp Wings
  • Other wings I have seen are not solid but concaved; which is not the correct term. See the attached image. Those have bolts that go through and attaches the wing. The ones in the fleabay that I posted are solid and I guess the wings are held in place with the headlamp.

    The tractor had headlamps but I think Dad removed them because they were so badly rusted and then they were not added back. All the holes are there including the switch holes in the dash. I am finding that light parts are not cheap.

    Several moves have lost these parts as I have not seen them anywhere. I also lost a drawbar; we had the tractor stored at a friends house and it didn't come home with the tractor.

    I would like the lamps back on the tractor. It also had all the rear lamps. I will look again to see if I can find any parts. Thanks, will contact you by email off sight. Thanks so much.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 06-10-2018 at 15:39:11 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: 8N Headlamp Wings
  • I still don't know what you mean by solid and concave -they all look pretty much like the ones in your picture. They are all the same as far as being held in place with the hex bolt. Designs differed slightly on the inside because both Ford made them originally, then after 1947 Ferguson also made and used them on his TO/TE 20 and 30 Models, but basically the same inside too. ALL FORD made parts will have the '9N' part prefix on them. Note in your photo the Ford part number, “9N-13472” for the RH wing. The LH wing is p/n 13473. Some early wings have 5/16-24 tapped holes, some have ¼-28 mount holes. There is only one hole for the light switch to go, but that hole could vary depending on where it was decided to go. Lighting kits were never factory installed on N's. Kits were only dealer optional accessories and one could buy a kit and have them install or take home and install themselves. Original switch was on a bracket near the Voltage Regulator. In 1950 Ford offered to move it to the LH dash and add a switch template in the lighting kit. There is a template that came with the 1950 lighting kit to mount the switch at the 7 O'Clock Position from the AMMETER -see picture. Regardless of whether dealer installed or customer installed, the light switch was mounted wherever it was easiest to do regardless. I see many by the key switch and template or not, they could be and were all over the dash so don’t try to be too hung up on originality. If you had lights at one time, there might be a dash hole already so use it –why make the dash a piece of Swiss cheese by drilling more? If no dash hole, then Just8Ns sells just the switch bracket for the VR for about $5. New aftermarket voltage regulators sold nowadays come with or have available a light switch bracket.
    POST 1950 FORD 8N LIGHTING KIT TEMPLATE FOR SWITCH:

    POST 1950 FORD 8N LIGHT SWITCH MOUNTING HOLE FROM TEMPLATE:

    FORD 8N TRACTOR LIGHT SWITCH ON BRACKET MOUNT w/VOLTAGE REGULATOR:

    Tim Daley(MI)

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