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Jeff    Posted 07-31-2018 at 13:26:19 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Early '48 8N S/N 20740, front mount. Finally got it running well. Discovered loose right rear wheel, replaced hub which fixed the problem but threads were stripped. Wasted money on the 2 piece clamp nut which didn't hold. Purchased new axle off ebay for $95 from Completetractor.com. Return policy looked good. Had a new bearing (from yesterdays tractor) pressed on at a local shop for $30 assuming the stupid axle would fit. Stupid axle wouldn't fit in the differential because the grooves in the splines are too shallow/tapered. Was it machined out of spec? Do the newer style axles with the inner oil seal race not fit older style tractors without the inner seal? New axle nut from YT won't fit new axle threads. Now I'm going to have to return the new axle after paying to have the new bearing removed. Then I'll have to pay again to have the bearing pressed on the newer new axle. Called several machine shops. Machining the threads on the original axle is cost prohibitive. I'm ready to set this thing on fire at this point. I don't know what to do other than order a new axle and switch out the bearings. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated at this point.

    Rustyal    Posted 08-01-2018 at 08:52:37 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • You may try eBay for used parts. Maybe you can pick up a good used axle for cheap.

    duey    Posted 07-31-2018 at 16:59:39 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A number of folks might suggest you would be happier with at least a Hundred Series or better yet a Thousand series...

    Jeff    Posted 07-31-2018 at 19:37:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Can't afford much. Hence the reason I'm using a 70 year old tractor I received for free. Unfortunately it's been anything but free so far.

    TheOldHokie    Posted 08-01-2018 at 08:11:30 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • My motto:

    "You usually only get what you pay for and sometimes not even that"

    TOH

    Roger ID    Posted 07-31-2018 at 16:54:36 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • I bought an axle from a trusted supplier and still got defective axle. The threads we crooked on the axle. Could see light on one side of the nut. Returned no problem. Next axle, the hub went on the splines to far. Returned again.

    Supplier took good care of me. Just frustrating.

    Jeff    Posted 07-31-2018 at 19:39:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I feel your pain man. Hopefully completetractor.com honors their free return policy.

    Rick WY    Posted 07-31-2018 at 17:12:40 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Roger, where are you located in Idaho? Email is open. Thanks 4847

    JMOR    Posted 07-31-2018 at 14:19:48 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Should all fit. Buy from a trusted source.

    Jeff    Posted 07-31-2018 at 14:33:05 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Is Yesterday's Tractors a good one?

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-01-2018 at 04:05:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Jeff, understand that Yesterdays Tractors is not a part manufacturer nor a supplier, per say. What they sell you are parts supplied by a handful of part suppliers who donate to their site as sponsors. YT's are just a middle-man. Like JMOR said, it matters where you buy parts from. Many of us use JUST8Ns or DENNIS CARPENTER or STEINER TRACTOR. All sell reliable parts and if there is a problem, no issues getting it resolved and no middleman to deal with. CARPENTER is the only licensed by FORD supplier who actually manufactures many parts exactly like the originals, some even using the original FORD machines, tooling, and stamping dies. Don Barkley is the founder of JUST8NS, was Carpenter's QC man on N tractors when Dennis first got into them. Don then split off on his own to start JUST8Ns, but is now retire and the business is run by his son Derek. You can call him or Kevin Norman at Carpenter, or tech support at STEINER, and actually talk to them about any part or procedure. All sell the usual TISCO line as well.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Ultradog MN    Posted 08-02-2018 at 08:56:17 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tim,
    You wrote:

    "Jeff, understand that Yesterdays Tractors is not a part manufacturer nor a supplier, per say. What they sell you are parts supplied by a handful of part suppliers who donate to their site as sponsors."

    This is simply Not true!

    I had never heard of this so I sent it to Miss Kim, owner of Yesterdays Tractors.
    This is her reply.

    Hello Jerry, thanks for asking.. YT has zero site sponsors and hasn’t for more than 20 years. We have a very simple business - we purchase parts wholesale and keep overhead low so we can sell them with the smallest markup possible. If we had sponsors we’d have to cater to them, our desire is to only cater to our own integrity and love of tractors. Chris has at least 10 in the barn lined up to restore - he and my son are currently restoring an Allis D10 Series III for me.

    Chris and I take care of all the technical / programming / systems analysis / servers / network, etc personally as well as keep watch over the community and content of our main site. This saves the company a tremendous amount as we don’t have to outsource this as many other companies do. This allows us to keep our prices low.

    So I guess Chris and I are the site sponsors but it’s our passion and we don’t think of it as “work”.

    Thanks for writing,
    Kim

    Jeff    Posted 08-01-2018 at 17:00:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Good info, thank you

    JMOR    Posted 07-31-2018 at 14:40:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I don't know. I buy from Just8Ns. Never any problem. Owner always helpful. In addition to selling parts, they do restorations and would know if a part was inferior right away. Find them in the red bar at top of page under Links.

    Jeff    Posted 07-31-2018 at 19:33:54 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I've seen them suggested several times and would like to use them for their credibility. I didn't because they're one of the most expensive at $215 shipped for just the axle. They also charge the customer for shipping on returns which is a huge no-go in my book when it comes to shipping a 25 pound 32 inch rod.

    JMOR    Posted 07-31-2018 at 22:33:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Fine, go cheap and have all this man's problems & then re-think, what is the real cost?

    dave#1    Posted 07-31-2018 at 23:39:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Well.... I bought a new carburetor for my 50 8n from Just8n's because I didn't want a Taiwan built carburetor and was willing to pay for a higher quality carburetor, Guess what I got??? "Made in Taiwan", The same one I could have bought off EBay for quite a bit less $$$, I know it was the same because 2 weeks later I bought one off Ebay for another 8n and it was the same same. Had the same issue with a alternator mounting kit, spent more money on it than the ones on ebay and had problems, had to modify it to make it work.
    So... sometimes spending more money on something isn't the right choice.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-01-2018 at 04:17:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • A perfect example of why to always use the original part. These N's were designed so major components like carb, distributor, generator, starter, water pump, hydraulics, et al could be rebuilt over and over, even still today. If a part like a carb was deemed unusable, I'd invest in an original used one off fleabay and rebuild it and avoid anything 'new'. Most ALL new parts are made in CHEEMA today, at least the larger ones. There is no Quality Control, and many were just reversed engineered by some 20 year old kid and cloned with may shortcuts taken. Back 10, 20 years ago when parts were being made in India or Brazil, they at least were making attempts to get it right.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    dave#1    Posted 08-01-2018 at 08:39:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Both carbs worked fine and are still working great to this day, My point was that sometimes spending more doesn't usually mean better quality.

    Rusty 2N    Posted 07-31-2018 at 15:01:23 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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