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Dave in Wisconsin    Posted 11-02-2018 at 19:17:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • 1950 8N Generator.
  • Out in the woods yesterday with my 8N cleaning up trails to our deer stands after some serious logging in our sugar bush. The woods is kind of wet after too much October rain, it's badly rutted by the log skidder and I didn't bother to put the chains on. Big mistake! After getting her stuck I killed the engine so there I am, stuck in the woods. That's not all, the battery is dead and she won't turn over. To be honest, I have never seen the ammeter needle move in the 5 or 6 years I've owned it. So, where do I start? If your tractor was stuck in the woods with a dead battery what would you suspect? Battery (pretty new)? Generator? Voltage regulator? I'll appreciate any suggestions. PS: At 82 I'm tryin' not to lose interest...

    Dave in Wisconsin    Posted 11-09-2018 at 11:09:15 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Thanks to all of you who sent tips and suggestions. Old dependable, this site! Well, I did manage to jump-start the Ford and get it un-stuck and back to the shed. It seemed to finally be time to tackle the electrical system which I'm now doing. I'm reminded of an old quote: "I don't have time to sharpen the saw, there's too damned much wood to cut!".
    The generator has been cleaned up and has new brushes (the old ones are marked with Ford script). She's gonna get a new voltage regulator and amp meter, all tied together with a new wiring harness. In the meantime, she's running so my 8 year old grandson will be able to 'drive' it this weekend (with me behind him) when we get together to shovel out the deer shack and ready for opening day on the 17th. Thanks again!

    Bruce(OR)    Posted 11-03-2018 at 10:53:10 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • If you can't pull it out, drop in a new battery, start it and get it home. That is where I start. Then once you pull the cables, you find out it was corrosion. Now you have a new battery, clean cables and the tractor is at home.
    Getting it unstuck would be the first thing.

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 11-03-2018 at 07:36:21 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Dave,

    How did you determine the "battery is dead"? Are you positive it is not a corroded connection or a bad cable? Start with the easy things! If you have a meter, measure that battery and the connections. If you do not have a meter, remove the cables from both battery terminals and make sure they are clean. It was running when it went in there. Find the problem before you start overhauling it.

    Good Luck,

    Jack (88)

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 11-03-2018 at 06:26:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • It's not the generator -if it is generator and not an alternator, NOT yet anyway. It is most likely a mucked up wiring setup. I'd begin with the battery. Is it 6V or 12V? Is it a front mount or angle mount distributor? Got a VOM? Test battery voltage static. If you can get another vehicle back in the woods, try to jump start it, but do it correctly and safely -see BRUCE(VA)'s '75 Tips for N-Owners', #43. Be sure gear shift is in NEUTRAL. If you attempt to jump s start a 6V battery with a 12V source, you will most likely explode the 6V battery. I have a hunch why you have not seen ammeter movement in 5 years, and why your battery died. You mention a generator so that indicates it is a 6V/POS GRN system. Is this correct or do you have an alternator and 12V battery? I would suspect poor/incorrect wiring is the root cause. You may have to get a 4WD truck with a winch back there to help pull your tractor out of the mud. You can also remove the battery and take to a starter shop in town to get tested. Either way, once tractor is back in the barn, troubleshoot wiring/electrical using the PICTOGRAMS by JMOR -free download in our HOW-TO's -see LINK.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    75 TIPS FOR N-OWNERS:
    http://www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/pdfs/Tips-for-Ford-N-Tractor-Owners.pdf

    KCTractors    Posted 11-02-2018 at 20:44:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Take a 12 volt battery and jump it to the starter, just to the starter. Put + cable to the starter, turn your ignition switch on and take the - cable to a ground. I always ground it at the radius arm mount. When the tractor starts, take the ground off.
    Where in Wi are you located? If not to far, I would help you, I'm only 72.

    duey    Posted 11-02-2018 at 21:09:33 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Dad showed us that a Crank Handle laid nicely between the exhaust manifold and the head, handle to the rear. There were a few times when having a crank was just the ticket... But we didn't, of course, have a loader or front bumper...

    duey    Posted 11-02-2018 at 21:11:03 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Dad has been gone since 1992 and I'm now 73... :-) Just sayin'!!!

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