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49er swGA    Posted 02-26-2019 at 08:58:52 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Here we go AGAIN...
  • I`m always looking on, reading and following things we discuss here and more rarely comment on subjects, because I`m new into this N tractors repair...
    However, when I have a problem our Gurus lend a helping hand, share knowledge and advise me which way to turn...

    This morning I was cleaning up fallen limbs in our "campground" (as we call it)
    dragging storm debris which will end up a bonfire...

    Steering has always been an issue on "Shifty th` Fifty" being hard to turn and hanging up at the end of the turn sometimes...
    Well, to shorten the story, It broke!

    What with very limited steering range > I had to choose carefully my straightened path back to the polebarn ;)
    I steered with my feet on the arms to help out ;)

    The steering wheel rises & lowers with turning, so I broke out the FO-4 to see what mightta happened by looking at diagrams and suspect the steering box will have to be disassembled to repair damage...
    So far, I`ve only looked at the book and will head out to examine closer as to my plan of attack...

    Any & all comments will be appreciated,
    Dennis

    Ultradog MN    Posted 02-26-2019 at 09:32:47 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • I think a 50 has the new style steering box.
    If so, you have grenaded the upper bearing in the steering column.
    Ford steering boxes from the later 8Ns through the mid 1980s are nearly all identical and very, very simple to overhaul.
    Pull the steering arms off the sector shafts, pull the steering wheel and remove the entire steering column from the tractor.
    Disassemble it completely and clean/wash the bearing debris out of the bottom. Replace the upper bearing and install new sector seals. Then refill with 90wt or John Deere corn head grease.
    It will then work good for another 50 years.
    As a general reminder to all who read this: When did you last check the oil level in your steering box? Remember, about 90% of steering box problems are caused by lack of oil in that upper bearing. So go check/fill yours soon!

    49er swGA    Posted 02-28-2019 at 18:28:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • You are correct, the bearing is demolished, for SURE!!
    You`re the voice of experience Ultradog!!

    The other bearing in top of the cover/Tube is also MIA leaving only pieces of it...
    I got it apart and cleaned up for new parts to be installed...
    Local NH/FORD has the lower bearing in stock, but the upper is`nt in stock...
    seals were`nt leaking, so it`ll be $14 to repair for the lower end...
    As I read the how to on this, I remember pulling the bolt & oiling it once on either this one or the 49er...

    Thanks again,
    Dennis


    49er swGA    Posted 02-26-2019 at 12:40:04 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Yes, Ultradog, According to serial #, it is the newer of the two boxes...
    I was fretting to be pulling all the stuff off, ie. hood, dash etc...
    BUT> I gotta do what I got to do!
    I`ve got to get it fixed on accountta my 49 has a head bolt what busted when I pulled the head to replace the head gasket :(
    I`ll see about getting parts ordered as soon as I find what all is busted/worn out...

    I remember the chore it was to replace the steering wheel on my 49, it was STUCK on there ;)
    (What with only the metal left, As long as I got the wheel off I may as well replace it too)
    Thanks,
    Dennis

    Tyler (MD)    Posted 02-26-2019 at 16:21:32 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • Maybe some help in the "How-Tos" section of this web site.

    Tyler

    49er swGA    Posted 03-01-2019 at 06:57:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • Although the seals look OK, disassembling/disturbing the seal > I may have caused a leak, I`m thinking I may as well do it right and replace them seals too, I`ll call today and get parts on the way, so I`m not without a tractor any longer than necessary...

    Thanks again Y`all,
    Dennis

    49er swGA    Posted 02-26-2019 at 20:11:46 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • OH My!!!
    This will be easy, even for me :)
    I just read the How To on rebuild and LOVE the write up!!!
    We truly have the right folks in line here in our list of Guru`s, you make it read SO simple, "a caveman can do it"...

    Oh Yeah!
    Dennis

    49er swGA    Posted 02-28-2019 at 09:47:09 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • What with y`alls help I`ve read the FO4 & How to on this project and got me a good start on it this morning...

    I was able to get all the "hardware" outta the way down to the steering box with cover/tube assembly still attached, With only it being left to detach...
    Just as our scheduled/predicted rain/storm set in...

    I figured the steering wheel wouldda been more trouble than it was, but it came off nicely...
    And found NO top bearing, spring or any of these parts that`re sposed to be there...

    I`ll hafta build me a battery box on accountta it is destroyed by acid had ate it up...( I had put a teflon bottom and ho-made battery fastener in it, "waay back when" to hold the battery off the rusted remains...

    Gotta buddy who knows Steiner and suggested his steering box they sell, but @ $600 I think I`ll come out OK by rebuilding AND it`ll be this one a LOT cheaper...
    Besides I only saw the early model in the line up...
    That & the fact, I only paid $600 for the tractor :)
    I origYnally Bought it for parts for the 49er, but it`s in too gooda shape to use for parts!!

    Thanks for all the help,
    Dennis

    49er swGA    Posted 02-26-2019 at 19:57:42 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
  • Re: Here we go AGAIN...
  • Yes Tyler, our How To`s are chock full of fantastic information, I hadn`t thought of going there ;)AND + Thank you for the link...

    Early in diagnosis, I jacked the front wheels off the ground to ease pressure whilst turning the steering wheel and found it does turn right OK >> But spin the wheel left, it rises up outta the steering tube, then turns left...
    I Read up on removal and will tackle this job of getting parts removed and inspected soas to order what I`ll need...

    Wonder IF anyone rebuilds and sells these units for an affordable price?

    Thank you,
    Dennis

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