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Tom Keith    Posted 07-31-2019 at 11:18:26 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
  • "frozen" up
  • 8n sat outside (Michigan winters), not used/started past 18 months. Try to start, just clicks. Do as I shouldn't, new solenoid=clicks, new starter=clicks. Take spark plug out and try turning flywheel, stuck. Try towing forward & reverse "popping" clutch, tires won't turn. Any guesses what I'm dealing with and/or next steps? Thanks

    Jack - Iowa    Posted 08-04-2019 at 06:46:56 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • Use Dan's formula and Steve's method. Took about five days on a 8N. Could take longer but that one had set for years.

    steveVa    Posted 08-01-2019 at 21:18:18 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • I would take some gas and mix with 2 cycle oil about 20 to 1 ratio.
    Drip a oz or 2 into each cylinder. Make sure tractor is turned off and or disconnect battery so it will not start. Then shift it into high gear. Then Stand beside the rear tire and with both hands rock it back and forth. Once you get a rhythm going it should break it loose. I would not tow it with engine stuck you will bend or break something.

    Tim Daley(MI)    Posted 08-01-2019 at 04:31:45 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • 6V or 12V? Front Mount or side mount? A starter with a solenoid that just 'clicks' the solenoid when the starter pushbutton is depressed usually indicates a dead battery. If you do not use a float charger, invest in a good one like the Battery Tender to maintain the battery full charge if tractor is going to set for 30 days or more. Lubing the cylinders is good but I'd investigate the battery status first. Don't assume that if you simply attach a charger it will be good. Take the unit to a reliable starter/alternator shop or your local auto parts franchise and have it verified on their test equipment. Most places will usually test the battery for free. If specific gravity is not met, the cells will not maintain a full charge UNDER LOAD which is what you must have to start the engine with. Next would be spark and fuel tests. Realize too that 99.98% of all root cause failures of starting issues is due to mucked up wiring whether if OEM 6V/POS GRN or a 12V/NEG GRN switch over job. Many times 12V conversions are done poorly/incorrectly and thus fail in the field. See WIRING PICTOGRAMS by JMOR in our HOW-TO's/ELECTRICAL forum.

    Tim Daley(MI)

    Farmer Dan    Posted 07-31-2019 at 18:31:53 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [Email]  
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  • mix up a 50/50 mixture of automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Remove spark plugs and fill the cylinders. Let it soak for a few days. Put a battery charger on it while your waiting.

    Dead Eye Dave    Posted 08-01-2019 at 03:52:13 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Farmer Dan knows the magic formula. I have used the 50-50 acetone and transmission fluid for so many "stuck" things and it works. Much better than the purpose made spray cans in your hardware store. Try it first. Good luck. Dave

    Dn-N-Tn    Posted 07-31-2019 at 15:12:58 [URL] [DELETE]        [Reply] [No Email]  
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  • Tom, If it were mine, I'd pull all the plugs and fill the cylinders with some good penetrating oil and let it sit with the plugs out a few days (keep them filled with the penetrating oil). Try every day or so to turn at the flywheel till it begins to move. I've done this, and sometimes it takes a few days to work. I'd be careful trying to tow it to make the engine turn if it is stuck. You could bend a connecting rod that way, good luck, Dennis

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